We Call 'Bullshit'

Tuesday, January 29, 2013

"Give me my porn back" - Bristol man takes police to court to get collection returned

"A DISABLED man with a liking for pornography took the police to court to demand they return his huge collection of explicit adult movies.

Police arrested AG, right, three times on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children, seizing six PCs and laptops."

"At the appeal hearing, Judge Julian Lambert, sitting with magistrates Simon Brookes and Chris Barke, found in favour of the police and dismissed Mr G's appeal.

The law states that if it is not "practicable" to separate offending images from where they are stored, the item should be forfeited to the police.""

"Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately – or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder.""

"After viewing the questionable images, Judge Lambert and the justices ruled that, on the balance of probabilities , the images were "indecent" [What???] and showed eight girls and three boys under 18.

Mr G, who said he only had £100 in savings, was ordered to pay £1,533 costs.

Judge Lambert said: "We see no way, on the evidence in front of us, that the hard drives could be returned to the appellant with the images deleted so that they cannot be recovered."

After the case, Mr G said: "If they had just been able to delete the images and give me my computers back it would've saved a lot of court time and money. I'm gutted, but I've had my day in court and I thought the judge was very fair.""

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/story-17993245-detail/story.html

Porn addict, 59, caught with images of paedophilia [sic], SUES police to get back his massive collection of filth [oh dear]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270158/Porn-addict-caught-images-paedophilia-takes-police-court-bid-retrieve-confiscated-computers.html 

Bristol man with too much porn wants police to return his computer ‘wives’ 
 
http://www.anorak.co.uk/346449/news/bristol-man-with-too-much-porn-wants-police-to-return-his-computer-wives.html/

Force Beats Porn Man In Court 

http://www.policeoracle.com/news/Crime/2013/Jan/31/Force-Beats-Porn-Man-In-Court_60632.html 

Comment:

Scott - provide us with a HD, with 11 identified images, amongst all the other data, and we will delete them. Then, under observation, by us, you can show us how you are able to retrieve them (you will fail, of course - if you cannot, 'we' cannot), but then, you are economical with the truth in court - shameful.

The OSC  

*****

January 2013

More: Amusing, digital evidence 

"No, this "Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins" is full of shiat. You can absolutely wipe data without the ability for it to ever be recovered - and it's not even hard or complicated. There are, in fact, simple, free, open-source tools which will allow you do do exactly that within seconds for the amount of files he's talking about.

One of my home media servers is an old Intel "Entry Server" and to install a new HDD you have to wipe the drive to all 0's before it can be integrated into the RAID array. To do so I got a couple pieces of software which will also do something like 36-pass overwrite/deletions which will render whatever it's overwriting utterly and irrevocably deleted.

There are exactly two explanations for this expert saying this:
 
1. He knows better and he's lying.
2. He doesn't know any better - in which case he has absolutely no business filling that position."

http://www.fark.com/comments/7561915/Give-me-my-porn-back-Bristol-man-takes-police-to-court-to-get-collection-returned

January 2013 

"Give me my porn back"

http://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/18i8s1/give_me_my_porn_back_bristol_man_takes_police_to
  
2011

What Happens When Data Is Overwritten?

"When data is overwritten, the magnetic domains on the HDD are re-magnetized. This is an irreversible process that physically removes information previously stored in this location.

While some residual physical traces of the changes (or none changes) in magnetization potentially remain, which may theoretically allow a partial restore, this would require the use of a magnetic force microscope or similar technologies, none of which have been shown to recover data successfully so far [although you never know what’s going on in secret government intelligence labs].

So in essence, there is no software or other technical way known to the public that can restore overwritten data."

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/impossible-recover-data-overwritten-hard-drive-technology-explained/

1 Jan 2013 

Can Intelligence Agencies Read Overwritten Data?

http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html

http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1496285

http://www.vidarholen.net/~vidar/overwriting_hard_drive_data.pdf