28 February 2014 Last updated at 02:59
Broadmoor Hospital: Inside a Victorian 'lunatic asylum'
"It is 150 years since Broadmoor Hospital opened its doors to patients of both sexes who were deemed mentally unfit to be tried in criminal courts. Now a new hospital is being built next door, with plans to redevelop some of the original Victorian buildings.
Take a look back at what life in the Berkshire hospital used to be like - and see what the future holds - with archivist Mark Stevens the author of Broadmoor Revealed, and Broadmoor's clinical director Dr Kevin Murray."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26335033
Friday, 28 February 2014
Do Little If Anything To Deter Sex Crimes And Could Actually Lead To An Increase In Offences
02/28/2014
Proposed sex-offender registry will not deter crime, criminal lawyer warns
"They say it's for child sex offenders but we can guarantee you it will not just be those offenders, it will be all ex-offenders.
The Conservative government’s plan to create a publicly-accessible database of child sex offenders will do little if anything to deter sex crimes and could actually lead to an increase in offences, an Ottawa-based defence lawyer warns.
Michael Spratt, who has testified at numerous parliamentary committees on criminal legislation, says the sex registry is being sold as a way to protect children and assist parents, but it is nothing more than “false advertising.”
The Conservative government’s legislation, introduced Wednesday, would create a publicly-accessible database of high-risk child sex offenders. It would also require registered sex offenders to provide more information when they travel abroad and permit more sharing of information between federal agencies.
“Online registries, they’re seductive, they sound like a good idea and they’re easy to sell to the public and they’re an easy position to advertise,” Spratt told CTV’s Canada AM on Friday.
“But if you look at the criminological evidence that has dealt with public registries … that evidence has found that there isn’t a reduce in offence because of the registry, there isn’t a detection in crime because of the registry.”
Spratt says that some studies have actually found that public registries make reintegration of an offender back into society, increasing the chances of a person reoffending.
Spratt, who runs a legal blog, turns to several studies that show what he calls are flaws with registries.
One study that looked at New York’s Sex Offender Registration and Notification Law concluded the registry had little to no impact on reducing sex crimes because most offences are committed by those who have not previously been convicted of one."
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/canada-proposed-sex-offender-registry.html#.UxDC0s7dyuM
http://canadaam.ctvnews.ca/proposed-sex-offender-registry-will-not-deter-crime-criminal-lawyer-warns-1.1708077
Thursday, February 27, 2014
CANADA - Public child sex offender database planned
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/canada-public-child-sex-offender.html#.UxDGHc7dyuM
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/954602/public-child-sex-offender-database-planned
Proposed sex-offender registry will not deter crime, criminal lawyer warns
"They say it's for child sex offenders but we can guarantee you it will not just be those offenders, it will be all ex-offenders.
The Conservative government’s plan to create a publicly-accessible database of child sex offenders will do little if anything to deter sex crimes and could actually lead to an increase in offences, an Ottawa-based defence lawyer warns.
Michael Spratt, who has testified at numerous parliamentary committees on criminal legislation, says the sex registry is being sold as a way to protect children and assist parents, but it is nothing more than “false advertising.”
The Conservative government’s legislation, introduced Wednesday, would create a publicly-accessible database of high-risk child sex offenders. It would also require registered sex offenders to provide more information when they travel abroad and permit more sharing of information between federal agencies.
“Online registries, they’re seductive, they sound like a good idea and they’re easy to sell to the public and they’re an easy position to advertise,” Spratt told CTV’s Canada AM on Friday.
“But if you look at the criminological evidence that has dealt with public registries … that evidence has found that there isn’t a reduce in offence because of the registry, there isn’t a detection in crime because of the registry.”
Spratt says that some studies have actually found that public registries make reintegration of an offender back into society, increasing the chances of a person reoffending.
Spratt, who runs a legal blog, turns to several studies that show what he calls are flaws with registries.
One study that looked at New York’s Sex Offender Registration and Notification Law concluded the registry had little to no impact on reducing sex crimes because most offences are committed by those who have not previously been convicted of one."
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/canada-proposed-sex-offender-registry.html#.UxDC0s7dyuM
http://canadaam.ctvnews.ca/proposed-sex-offender-registry-will-not-deter-crime-criminal-lawyer-warns-1.1708077
Thursday, February 27, 2014
CANADA - Public child sex offender database planned
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/canada-public-child-sex-offender.html#.UxDGHc7dyuM
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/954602/public-child-sex-offender-database-planned
Thursday, 27 February 2014
Hahahahaha - Better Late Than Never, Murdoch !!!
'Labour chiefs: It's OK to have sex with 10-yr-olds' - tomorrow's Sun front page: pic.twitter.com/i2DAb8AOlE
— The Sun (@TheSunNewspaper) February 27, 2014
In tomorrow's Sun... pic.twitter.com/13XAdD2sFS
— The Sun (@TheSunNewspaper) February 27, 2014
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Last Updated: 28th February 2014
Labour chiefs: It’s OK to have sex with 10-yr-olds
"Sun exposes full horror of paedophile plan."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5475224/labour-chief-patricia-hewitt-sorry-for-backing-paedo-plan.html
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28 February 2014
Hewitt apologises over PIE links
"An NCCL press release published in March 1976 with only Ms Hewitt's name on it called for both the age of consent to be lowered to 10 and for incest to be legalised, according to The Sun.
The document, the newspaper claims, says: "NCCL proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to 14, with special provision for situations where the partners are close in age, or where consent of a child over ten can be proved."
Referring to an NCCL report on reforming sex laws, it reportedly says: "The report argues that the crime of incest should be abolished. It says, 'In our view, no benefit accrues to anyone by making incest a crime when committed between mutually consenting persons over the age of consent'."
The Sun also claimed to have seen minutes of an NCCL executive committee meeting in London in January 1976 which proposed reforms saying that a person under the age of 10 in a sexual relationship is incapable of giving consent.
But, the minutes said, if a sexual partner is over 10 and under 14, while there is a "rebuttable presumption" that no consent was given, a defendant "should have to prove that the child consented and understood the nature of the act to which consent was given".
Ms Hewitt, a former health secretary, acknowledged that it had been NCCL policy to cut the age of consent - although she said the proposal to do so had not been hers.
"I do not support reducing the age of consent or legalising incest," Ms Hewitt said. "As the NCCL archives demonstrate, I consistently distinguished between consenting relationships between homosexual men, on the one hand, and the abuse of children on the other.""
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/hewitt-apologises-over-pie-links-30049478.html
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Friday 28 February 2014
PIE controversy: Hewitt 'Backed age of consent as low as 10'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pie-controversy-shadow-police-minister-jack-dromey-denies-supporting-call-for-age-of-consent-to-be-lowered-to-10-9160362.html
PUBLISHED: 19:16, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 13:09, 28 February 2014
Explosive new evidence links Patricia Hewitt to paedophile group's calls for age of consent to be lowered to just 10 and that incest should not be a crime
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2569570/Patricia-Hewitt-breaks-silence-groups-links-National-Council-Civil-Liberties-boss.html
Friday 28 February 2014 09.52 GMT
Harriet Harman should never have been the target of this non-debate
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/28/harriet-harman-non-debate-pie-nccl?CMP=twt_gu
This article originally appeared in T&S Issue 33, Summer 1996
Weasel Words: Paedophiles and the Cycle of Abuse
http://www.troubleandstrife.org/articles/issue-33/weasel-words-paedophiles-and-the-cycle-of-abuse/
28:2:14: about 5 hours ago
Patricia Hewitt 'called for age of consent to be lowered to 10'
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-02-27/patricia-hewitt-apologises-over-paedophile-group
10:10am UK, Friday 28 February 2014
Hewitt 'Backed Age Of Consent As Low As 10'
http://news.sky.com/story/1218818/hewitt-backed-age-of-consent-as-low-as-10
Friday 28 February 2014 20.00 GMT
Patricia Hewitt backed NCCL policy of lowering age of consent
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/28/patricia-hewitt-age-of-consent
Read this - “@guardian: Patricia Hewitt backed NCCL policy of lowering age of consent: http://t.co/U0UU57ve3A”
— Ian Pace (@ian_pace) February 28, 2014
(Embedded Tweet - click date) Last updated: February 28th, 2014
NCCL paedophilia scandal: Harriet Harman and Jack Dromey will have to resign
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100261647/nccl-paedophilia-scandal-harriet-harman-and-jack-dromey-will-have-to-resign
Mar 01, 2014 12:01
Ex-health secretary Patricia Hewitt DID 'back plan to lower age of consent to 14 and 10'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ex-health-secretary-patricia-hewitt-back-3194538
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We expect to upload #PIE story within a couple of hours. Also, I recommend that you read @thesundaypeople tmrw. Shocking disclosures on way.
— Mark Watts (@MarkWatts_1) March 1, 2014
@jpublik Well, the other Sundays can follow up @ExaroNews and @thesundaypeople in final editions. And dailies can follow up on Monday.
— Mark Watts (@MarkWatts_1) March 1, 2014
Shocking disclosures about paedophile group PIE coming up tonight from @thesundaypeople Also being covered by the excellent @ExaroNews
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) March 1, 2014
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Wednesday 18 June 2014 13.49 BST
The report exonerating Lord Justice Fulford should be published
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/18/report-lord-justice-fulford-published
Update 18 June
Lord Justice Fulford
http://judicialconduct.judiciary.gov.uk/latest-news.htm
Wednesday, 26 February 2014
Want To Know What The Situation Was, When It Was PIE - Now It Is Us?
Preludes ...
This Is Guy Adams - He Loves Old 'News' About 'Paedophiles'
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/this-is-guy-adams-he-loves-old-news.html
Hahahahaha - Better Late Than Never, Murdoch !!!
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/hahahahaha-better-late-than-never.html
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See Professor Gostin, WHO (4:20)... not correct, on all issues, but, almost ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL5LZwox2Eg&feature=youtu.be
Originally, Newsnight - 25/02/2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wtcx4/Newsnight_25_02_2014
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Still wriggling, after all these years ... back-stabbing, unprincipled, hypocrite ...
27 February 2014 Last updated at 19:18
Patricia Hewitt 'sorry' for paedophile stance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26376896
PUBLISHED: 19:16, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 19:19, 27 February 2014
BREAKING NEWS: 'I got it wrong on Paedophile Information Exchange': Patricia Hewitt finally apologises over group's links to National Council for Civil Liberties when she was its boss
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2569570/Patricia-Hewitt-breaks-silence-groups-links-National-Council-Civil-Liberties-boss.html
Thursday 27 February 2014 19.35 GMT
Patricia Hewitt takes responsibility for mistakes over paedophile campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/27/patricia-hewitt-paedophile-information-exchange?CMP=twt_fd
Last updated Thu 27 Feb 2014
Hewitt defends Harman over liberty group's links to PIE
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-27/hewitt-defends-harman-over-liberty-groups-links-to-pie/
PUBLISHED: 10:45, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 10:45, 27 February 2014
Letters between Patricia Hewitt and PIE reveal that child sex lobbyists 'tried to influence civil liberties group NCCL'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568985/PIE-tried-influence-civil-liberties-group-NCCL.html
Feb 27, 2014 21:23
Patricia Hewitt breaks silence to apologise over her links to pro-paedophile group in the '70s
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/patricia-hewitt-breaks-silence-apologise-3190510
27 February 2014 UK
Coogan: Daily Mail should apologise for past mistakes too
http://www.channel4.com/news/coogan-daily-mail-should-apologise-for-past-mistakes-too
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No mistakes, at all ...
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Question Time (27/2/14) - Yawn ...
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Question Time on paedophilia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZSUQUKDxNA
QT: 27/02/2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03wy4hx
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This Is Guy Adams - He Loves Old 'News' About 'Paedophiles'
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/this-is-guy-adams-he-loves-old-news.html
Hahahahaha - Better Late Than Never, Murdoch !!!
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/hahahahaha-better-late-than-never.html
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See Professor Gostin, WHO (4:20)... not correct, on all issues, but, almost ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL5LZwox2Eg&feature=youtu.be
Originally, Newsnight - 25/02/2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wtcx4/Newsnight_25_02_2014
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Patricia Hewitt says NCCL was "naive & wrong" to accept claims made by PIE that it was a campaigning & counselling org.
— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) February 27, 2014
@Channel4News Back-peddle all she likes - they were and we are.
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
@Channel4News It would not matter if they all danced and sang an 'apology' - it will never change ...
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
@Channel4News the historical facts of the legality/legitimacy - http://t.co/LyC9vwPdQx
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
Well done Patricia Hewitt, you’ve ensured another news cycle for the PIE story. I’m sure Harriet is terribly grateful #withfriendslikethese
— Prof Chris Ashford (@lawandsexuality) February 27, 2014
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Still wriggling, after all these years ... back-stabbing, unprincipled, hypocrite ...
27 February 2014 Last updated at 19:18
Patricia Hewitt 'sorry' for paedophile stance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26376896
PUBLISHED: 19:16, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 19:19, 27 February 2014
BREAKING NEWS: 'I got it wrong on Paedophile Information Exchange': Patricia Hewitt finally apologises over group's links to National Council for Civil Liberties when she was its boss
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2569570/Patricia-Hewitt-breaks-silence-groups-links-National-Council-Civil-Liberties-boss.html
Thursday 27 February 2014 19.35 GMT
Patricia Hewitt takes responsibility for mistakes over paedophile campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/27/patricia-hewitt-paedophile-information-exchange?CMP=twt_fd
Last updated Thu 27 Feb 2014
Hewitt defends Harman over liberty group's links to PIE
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-27/hewitt-defends-harman-over-liberty-groups-links-to-pie/
PUBLISHED: 10:45, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 10:45, 27 February 2014
Letters between Patricia Hewitt and PIE reveal that child sex lobbyists 'tried to influence civil liberties group NCCL'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568985/PIE-tried-influence-civil-liberties-group-NCCL.html
Feb 27, 2014 21:23
Patricia Hewitt breaks silence to apologise over her links to pro-paedophile group in the '70s
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/patricia-hewitt-breaks-silence-apologise-3190510
27 February 2014 UK
Coogan: Daily Mail should apologise for past mistakes too
http://www.channel4.com/news/coogan-daily-mail-should-apologise-for-past-mistakes-too
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No mistakes, at all ...
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Question Time (27/2/14) - Yawn ...
Q: Is it not time @HarrietHarman came out and apologized for links with the Paedophile Information Exchange? #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
“I’m a little baffled why [Harman] didn’t just say what Patricia Hewitt has said today,” says @MelanieLatest #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
"there was a climate obsessed with rights" - says Melanie Phillips like it was a bad thing #bbcqt
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) February 27, 2014
"Then it wasn't called paedophillia" - says Melanie Phillips, talking about the PAEDOPHILE information exchange #bbcqt
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) February 27, 2014
Melanie Phillips blames the gay rights agenda. True to form at least #bbcqt
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) February 27, 2014
Jay Rayner: We know paedophillia is an obscenity
Still saying the difficult things #bbcqt
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) February 27, 2014
“Closest thing we have to the paedophile infomation exchange today is http://t.co/Wq6gm0RHkM and pictures of kids,” says @jayrayner1 #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
“It is blind prejudice to link what [the Mail] published in 1930s to what it does today,” says @GreensladeR - http://t.co/etzPDQIQWo #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
“The other thing now we know now about paedophiles is how wickedly cunning they are,” says @Anna_SoubryMP #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
Jay Rayner is the sort of person the Labour Party court. Upper-middle class arses who are happy as long as no-one bursts their bubble
#BBCQT
— Cornelius Townedge (@seti2342) February 27, 2014
"Bad, Evil, wicked, cunning" - Anna Soubry knows her negative adjectives (she's a lawyer, dont'cha know?) #bbcqt
— The Sunday People (@thesundaypeople) February 27, 2014
,.“@HarrietHarman has spent a lifetime campaigning for women and children… These allegations are baseless,” says @rushanaraali #bbcqt
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
A number of people tweeting using #bbcqt are comparing this little bit of the debate to Chris Morris' Brass Eye.
— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) February 27, 2014
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Question Time on paedophilia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZSUQUKDxNA
QT: 27/02/2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03wy4hx
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@OSCP5 "The NCCL supports the civil liberties of everybody including paedophiles and gays.’ @libertyhq Please reiterate this position, ASAP
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 23, 2014
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Thursday, 20 February 2014
This Is Guy Adams - He Loves Old 'News' About 'Paedophiles'
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Firstly, The Historical Truth ...
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Then poor, young, Guy stumbles (or is pushed) in ...
Guy Adams - On occasion, so little need be said
Guy Adams, just another stupid, spineless kid, who will, eventually, pass through the shit-stained tabloid S-bend, of the water closet of time.
Plop.
The OSC.
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PUBLISHED: 23:20, 20 February 2014 | UPDATED: 04:53, 21 February 2014
Surprise, surprise, the BBC has ignored our expose [sic] of Labour's [sic] links to a child sex scandal [sic]. QUENTIN LETTS imagines its reaction if those involved were Tory
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2564334/QUENTIN-LETTS-From-Today-Newsnight-Beebs-frenzy-Can-evil-Tories-survive-scandal.html
PUBLISHED: 01:03, 21 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:03, 21 February 2014
How can Harriet call herself a feminist after this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564409/JAN-MOIR-How-Harriet-call-feminist-this.html
PUBLISHED: 00:25, 21 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:27, 21 February 2014
Inexcusable: Leading abuse charity [sic] demands [really?] apology from Labour trio with links to vile [sic] paedophile [sic] group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564397/Inexcusable-Leading-abuse-charity-demands-apology-Labour-trio-links-vile-paedophile-group.html
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Quentin Letts, Jan Moir and NAPAC - say no more
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Now, they attempt to bring in other old, establishment, guard and professional victims, to try to polish a turd ...
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8:40PM GMT 21 Feb 2014
The 'right’ to sleep with children was one 'civil liberty’ that NCCL supported
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653944/The-right-to-sleep-with-children-was-one-civil-liberty-that-NCCL-supported.html
8:50PM GMT 21 Feb 2014
'We on the Left lacked the courage to be branded 'homophobic’, so we just ignored it. I wish I hadn’t'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653950/We-on-the-Left-lacked-the-courage-to-be-branded-homophobic-so-we-just-ignored-it.-I-wish-I-hadnt.html
PUBLISHED: 02:18, 22 February 2014 | UPDATED: 13:19, 22 February 2014
Apologists for paedophilia [sic]: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group [sic], one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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PUBLISHED: 02:18, 22 February 2014 | UPDATED: 13:19, 22 February 2014
Apologists for paedophilia [sic]: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group [sic], one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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Sunday 23 February 2014
Labour trio can't stay silent on this paedophile claim
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/23/harriet-harman-patricia-hewitt-pie-nccl-paedophile-claims
(Embedded tweets - click date)
Feb 22, 2014 20:00
Senior Labour figures have serious questions to answer about past links to vile paedophile support group
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-labours-harriet-harman-3174026
Published: 23 February 2014
Tell us more about your paedophile chums, Harriet
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comment/columns/rodliddle/article1378585.ece
PUBLISHED: 23:24, 19 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:25, 20 February 2014
Now say sorry! Ex-Yard chief calls on Labour trio to admit backing paedophilia [sic] was a 'huge mistake'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563377/Now-say-sorry-Ex-Yard-chief-calls-Labour-trio-admit-backing-paedophilia-huge-mistake.html
PUBLISHED: 23:19, 23 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:50, 23 February 2014
How much longer can paedophilia apologists [?] stay silent? Even Left demands answers from senior Labour trio over links to child sex group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566273/How-longer-paedophilia-apologists-stay-silent-Even-Left-demands-answers-senior-Labour-trio.html
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Friday, 21 February, 2014
A dam smart way to divert attention
"PS: Briefly, as I have a plane to catch, I guess I should mention a rather less interesting propaganda issue than the Itaipu dam film. The Daily Mail has emailed me several times in the last few days asking for a comment on their latest misleading crap about supposed Labour government support for PIE in the 1970s.
I see no point in responding, as anything I say would merely serve as another angle to keep the story going.
Not that they need my help. They have already run the story in various versions before, and will no doubt do so again at the slightest excuse, whether they have anything new to say or not. They know what keeps their punters happy, so they cannot be accused of incompetence in terms of generating sales. However, so far as this particular repetitious saga is concerned they are beginning to resemble the Daily Express, which constantly recycles a handful of stories (death of Princess Diana, disappeared toddler Madeleine McCann, miracle cure for arthritis, stormy weather ahead) to its elderly readership, who are presumably so far gone in senility they cannot remember they read the same thing only a few days before.
The Mail can take the downmarket Express route if they wish. It may be successful in sales terms, but it is hardly a recipe for respected journalism."
http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/a-dam-smart-way-to-divert-attention
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Oh, but no, the mindless, conspiracy-dribbling and knuckle-dragging, does not stop there ...
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Published on Feb 19, 2014
Meet the Pedo Supporting British MP's Sex With 4 Yr old Babies !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb6Cfj6IXE4
Published on Feb 19, 2014
UK Column Live - 19th February 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqGRTrZeemA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUr_dQZ0irQdRiwVatkuHPcA
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24 February 2014 Last updated at 17:30
Harriet Harman condemns paper's 'smear campaign'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26320942
Monday 24 February 2014 16.58 GMT
Ed Miliband rejects claims of Labour trio's links to paedophile campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/ed-miliband-labour-links-paedophile-information-exchange?CMP=twt_fd
Friday, 21 February 2014
PIE - Questions that need answering
http://jerseyric.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/pie-questions-that-need-answering.html
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24/02/2014
NCCL Statement
"In recent days I have been the subject of a politically-motivated smear campaign by the Daily Mail.
They have accused me of being an apologist for child sex abuse, of supporting a vile paedophile organisation, of having a relaxed attitude to paedophilia and of watering down child pornography laws. These are horrific allegations and I strongly deny them all of them.
This is not the first time the Daily Mail has made this horrible and untrue allegation. And, this is not the first time the Daily Mail has attacked me. The editor and proprietor of the Daily Mail are entitled to their political views and they are of course entitled to oppose what I stand for but they are not entitled to use their newspaper to smear me with innuendo because they disagree with me politically and hate my values.
I sincerely hope people won't believe these smears - I suspect even the Daily Mail doesn't believe them to be true. But given the seriousness and the aggression with which the Daily Mail are pursuing me, I feel that I need to put the facts in the public domain.
1. Allegation that I supported the lowering of the age of consent to 10
This is not true. I supported the equalisation of the age of consent (as set out in NCCL document “priorities and strategy for the executive committee June 1981") by making the age of consent the same for homosexual as well as for heterosexual sex.
2. Allegation that I opposed the law on incest
This is not true. The document they refer to was written by NCCL in 1976 before I started to work there.
3. Allegation that I was seeking to water down a proposed ban on child pornography.
This is not true. I supported the Protection of Children Bill 1978. At the start of the document it makes clear that “The NCCL deplores the exploitation of children whether in the form of use in commercial pornography or as victims of sexual assaults"
The submission argued for some amendments to guard against unintended consequences including:
- Parents being criminalised for taking pictures of their children on the beach or in the bath
- The use of pictures in sex education being criminalised
- We also proposed that the definition of indecent was too wide and instead proposed "obscene" as indecent was very broadly defined and could include Page 3 of the Sun.
The Mail have tried to make me guilty by way guilt by association.
NCCL was an organisation which anyone could apply to join and indeed any organisation could apply to be "an affiliate" on payment of a fee. When I was at NCCL there were around 6,000 members and nearly 1,000 affiliated organisations of which PIE was one.
Members and affiliates decided the organisation's policy at the AGM from year to year.
I was aware that because NCCL opposed censorship and supported gay rights, paedophiles had sought to exploit that and use NCCL as a vehicle to make their arguments. But by the time I came to work for NCCL this vile organisation had already been vigorously challenged within the organisation. Jack Dromey was instrumental in that challenge when he took over the chair of NCCL in 1976
The reason I decided to go to work for NCCL was because I actively supported the work they had done and in particular the work of their women's rights committee on the Equal Pay Act, on the introduction of the Sex Discrimination Act and for greater protection of victims of domestic violence and against race discrimination.
Since being elected to the House of Commons in 1982 and during my times in Ministerial Office I have always championed the rights of those subjected to sexual abuse - especially women and children.
I hope The Daily Mail will stop this campaign of smear and innuendo against me. I have done nothing wrong and am guilty of none of their grotesque allegations."
http://www.harrietharman.org/nccl-statement---24022014
February 24, 2014 6:35 pm
Harman issues statement on NCCL allegation – says she has been the victim of a “politically-motivated smear campaign”
http://labourlist.org/2014/02/harman-issues-statement-on-nccl-allegation-says-she-has-been-the-victim-of-a-politically-motivated-smear-campaign
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History ..
October 19th, 2012
How Hattie’s friends defended paedophilia [sic]
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100261018/harriet-harman-the-nccl-and-paedophilia-my-article-from-2012/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
7:00AM GMT 09 Mar 2009
Harriet Harman under attack over bid to water down child pornography law
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4949555/Harriet-Harman-under-attack-over-bid-to-water-down-child-pornography-law.html
Nov 11, 2012 09:11
Abuse scandals probe widens: The man who may hold key to UK's biggest paedophile network ever
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365#.UwzZOdpdliQ.twitter
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24/02/2014
Including Harriet Harman on the tabloid paedophile row, Ukraine, and Cameron in Scotland
First broadcast: 24 Feb 2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wsyqm
25/02/2014
Harman paedophile row and no trial for alleged IRA bomber. With Jeremy Paxman
First broadcast: 25 Feb 2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wtcx4
Laura Kuenssberg @bbclaurak
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak
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PUBLISHED: 22:41, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 08:14, 25 February 2014
But they still won't say sorry: Labour's Harman and Dromey finally break their silence over links to paedophile group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567054/But-wont-say-sorry-Labours-Harman-Dromey-finally-break-silence-links-paedophile-group.html
PUBLISHED: 23:02, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:33, 24 February 2014
Not one hint of remorse: Harman and Dromey's statements, and the Mail's replies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567098/Not-one-hint-remorse-Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromeys-statements-Mails-replies.html
PUBLISHED: 01:01, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:01, 25 February 2014
DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Amid the obfuscation, one word is missing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2567154/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Amid-obfuscation-one-word-missing.html
8:09PM GMT 24 Feb 2014
Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey, Patricia Hewitt and the Paedophile Information Exchange
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10659100/Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromey-Patricia-Hewitt-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
Last updated: February 25th, 2014
Harriet Harman owes the British public a full explanation about the NCCL's links with paedophile group
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100261019/harriet-harman-owes-the-british-public-a-full-explanation-about-the-nccls-links-with-paedophile-group/
25/2/14: 44 minutes ago
Harriet Harman: 'I'm not going to apologise'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26335330#TWEET1054627
25 February 2014 Last updated at 14:18
Harriet Harman expresses 'regret' after Daily Mail claims
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26333558#TWEET1054659
2:00PM GMT 25 Feb 2014
Harriet Harman's regret over civil rights body's paedophile group link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10660306/Harriet-Harmans-regret-over-civil-rights-bodys-paedophile-group-link.html
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Stop the Daily Mail sexualising children
https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/daily-mail-mailonline-stop-the-daily-mail-sexualising-children
Wednesday 26 February 2014 19.09 GMT
The fight against the sexualisation of children
http://www.theguardian.com/media/shortcuts/2014/feb/26/fight-against-sexualisation-children
Harriet Harman tweets Daily Mail website picture of girl aged 12 in bikini
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail-website-girl-bikini?CMP=twt_gu
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February 25, 2014
LABoraTORY PAEDOPHILIA: Part Two – why the Opposition has nothing much to say on the subject
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/laboratory-paedophilia-part-two-why-the-opposition-has-nothing-much-to-say-on-the-subject/
3:12pm UK, Tuesday 25 February 2014
Harman Denies Colluding With Paedophile Group
http://news.sky.com/story/1216883/harman-denies-colluding-with-paedophile-group
25 February 2014
How paedophile campaigners targeted civil liberties group
http://www.channel4.com/news/harriet-harman-pie-nccl-daily-mail-labour
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February 25, 2014 at 08:23AM
Harriet Harman, the NCCL: Smear Or Legitimate Story?
"Iain takes the Daily Mail to task.
One of the most irritating phrases you will ever hear on television is “the BBC has learnt”. You’d think it meant that due to an original piece of journalism, the BBC has found out something nobody else has. Invariably it means the BBC has switched on Sky News.
Sky use a similar technique by using the phrase “Sky sources have told us.” But in each case it gives the broadcaster cover to hype up a story that might otherwise be considered a little pedestrian. And it perverts the news agenda. But this sort of thing happens every day. Take the current furore about Harriet Harman, the Daily Mail, and the NCCL.
Over the last few days both the BBC and Sky have studiously ignored the front pages of the Daily Mail, which has accused Harriet Harman of, well, I’m not totally sure exactly. It seems they think that because she was legal officer to the NCCL she must have somehow sympathised with the aims and objectives of one of its thousands of members, the Paedophile Information Exchange. It’s a ‘guilt by association’ smear which upon any reasonable examination doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. But day after day the Daily Mail demands that Harman, her husband Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt say ‘sorry’. It’s the same kind of tactic they used on Ed Miliband back in September.
Conservatives have up to now attacked the BBC for not even mentioning the issue, understandably believing that if three Tory politicians had been accused of something similar the BBC might not have been so coy. We’ll never know. However, the BBC could defend its position by pointing out that these allegations are nothing new and were first aired back in 2009. That would be a sustainable editorial position.
But yesterday the game changed when Harriet Harman decided to break cover and respond to the allegations by giving the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg an interview. It turned out to be a bad move. Instead of saying that it was a clear mistake for the NCCL to allow the PIE to be an associate member, she prevaricated and appeared a little shifty. Not only that she compounded her error by accusing the Daily Mail of being hypocritical because it publishes pictures of bikini-clad young women on its website. Women, not girls. So instead of closing down the story, it has merely given all other media outlets the excuse to cover it on the basis that if Harriet Harman has spoken about it, it becomes a legitimate story.
Cue BBC overkill. It’s now leading bulletins on the Today Programme and 5 Live. I haven’t seen Sky News yet this morning, so I can’t comment on what they are doing but as it’s the lead story on their website it’s probable that it is leading their bulletins too.
I’ve steered clear of the story on my LBC show, not because of any desire to be politically correct, but because I genuinely don’t see this as a massive story. I see it as a politically-motivated smear by a newspaper which is besmirching its own good name by running it day after day after day.
Does anyone seriously believe Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt have any paedophile sympathies? No, of course not. They worked for a ramshackle organisation which was run in an anarchic way. Just as anyone with dubious views can join a political party, anyone or any organisation with dubious views could join the NCCL. Does anyone seriously think that Harman, a lowly junior legal officer, had the power to expel a member who had legitimately joined? Presumably to do so would have meant changing the NCCL’s constitution. Perhaps she and her husband tried to do that. Who knows? But remember that one of the NCCL’s aims was to promote freedom of speech for everyone, no matter how vile their views.
The biggest mistake Harriet Harman has made was to give that interview to Newsnight. All it succeeded in doing was fanning the story’s flames and giving other media organisations and newspapers to excuse they needed to cover it. Well, that’s all fine and dandy, but the overblown and blanket coverage it is getting is so out of proportion to the lack of coverage it got yesterday, that editors all over the place, but especially the BBC, would do well to examine why they are doing what they are doing. Are they doing this because it is such an important story or because of their collective feeling of guilt that maybe they should have given it some coverage well before today?
When I go into LBC today and we start planning my Drive programme, it will be interesting to see how the story has developed during the day. If I cover it at all – and at the moment my feeling is that I’d rather not – it will be looking at the behaviour of the Daily Mail, more than the behaviour of Harriet Harman. No doubt I will get a shedload of abuse for it, but hey – broad shoulders and all that."
http://www.lbc.co.uk/iain-dales-blog-30195/entry/120/9927
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Feb 25, 2014 17:05
There is a paedophile elephant in the corner of Labour’s living room
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-partys-paedogeddon-theyre-never-3182595#.Uwz4EjrL_3E.twitter
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Tuesday 25 February 2014 16.02 GMT
PIE, the NCCL and Harriet Harman: why she was right not to apologise
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail
8:17PM GMT 25 Feb 2014
New evidence casts doubt on Harriet Harman's defence over paedophile links
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10661251/New-evidence-casts-doubt-on-Harriet-Harmans-defence-over-paedophile-links.html
PUBLISHED: 10:55, 26 February 2014 | UPDATED: 11:48, 26 February 2014
Harman and Hewitt 'never tried to kick me out - they didn't want to rock the boat to protect their careers' claims child abuser ex leader of Paedophile Information Exchange
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568232/Harman-Hewitt-never-tried-kick-didnt-want-rock-boat-protect-careers-claims-child-abuser-ex-leader-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
9:55AM GMT 26 Feb 2014
'Harman did not want to rock the boat over links to child sex group'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10662047/Harman-did-not-want-to-rock-the-boat-over-links-to-child-sex-group.html
Wednesday, 26 February, 2014
Home Secretary cheated justice by dying!
http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/home-secretary-cheated-justice-by-dying/
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Tuesday 25 February 2014 20.59 GMT
Harriet Harman demands apology for Daily Mail's paedophile 'smears'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-apology-daily-mail-paedophile-smears?CMP=twt_gu
25 February 2014 20:10
Harriet Harman’s messy war with the Mail
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/02/harriet-harmans-messy-war-with-the-mail/
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The Daily Mail now grasps at ridiculous straws ...
PUBLISHED: 23:43, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:43, 24 February 2014
BBC's censorship of paedophilia scandal 'reveals its left-wing bias': Corporation accused of refusing to report story to protect the Labour party
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567110/BBCs-censorship-paedophilia-scandal-reveals-left-wing-bias-Corporation-accused-refusing-report-story-protect-Labour-party.html
PUBLISHED: 23:18, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 09:38, 26 February 2014
The child sex attacker and Soviet spy who was in the vile group legitimised by Harman and chums
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567991/The-child-sex-attacker-Soviet-spy-vile-group-legitimised-Harman-chums.html
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26 February 2014 Last updated at 11:43
What is the Harman-Mail row about?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26335569
27 February 2014 Last updated at 13:14
How did the pro-paedophile group PIE exist openly for 10 years?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378
Wednesday 26 February 2014
Looking back to the great British paedophile infiltration campaign of the 1970s
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/looking-back-to-the-great-british-paedophile-infiltration-campaign-of-the-1970s-9155610.html
26/2/14: 2 hours ago
Jowell: Harman 'consistent' in opposition to PIE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26350517
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Uncle Tom still playing his silly little games ...
PUBLISHED: 23:10, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:36, 25 February 2014
Labour MP calls for probe into state cash for Paedophile Information Exchange after claims files that prove it received taxpayers' money have been shredded
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567999/Labour-MP-calls-probe-state-cash-Paedophile-Information-Exchange-claims-files-prove-received-taxpayers-money-shredded.html
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5198/police-poised-to-level-charges-in-paedophile-ring-linked-to-mps
Wednesday 26 February 2014
Labour MP Tom Watson admits he would not have touched paedophile rights group PIE 'with a bargepole'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-mp-tom-watson-admits-he-would-not-have-touched-paedophile-rights-group-pie-with-a-bargepole-9155518.html
Feb 25, 2014 19:16
Tories must say sorry for 'covering up child sex abuse' before Harriet Harman has to apologise
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tom-watson-tories-must-apologise-3183049
Tuesday 25 February 2014 20.22 GMT
Harriet Harman's handling of the Daily Mail 'smear' has been wholly inept
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail-smear-inept
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BBC loves PIE @BBCPropaganda
https://twitter.com/BBCPropaganda
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26 February 2014 18.04 GMT
Harriet Harman: 'The Daily Mail should be apologising, not me'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/harriet-harman-daily-mail-apologising-paedophilia?CMP=twt_fd
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Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.02 GMT
Harriet Harman rejects claims from paedophile campaigner Tom O'Carroll
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/harriet-harman-rejects-claims-from-paedophile-campaigner-tom-ocarroll?CMP=twt_fd
Last updated Wed 26 Feb 2014
Ex-PIE chair 'confident Harman was aware of situation'
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-26/ex-pie-chair-confident-harman-was-aware-of-situation/
Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.41 GMT
Lobbying by paedophile campaign revealed
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/26/lobbying-paedophile-campaign-revealed-hewitt
PUBLISHED: 23:32, 26 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:08, 27 February 2014
Harman's pressure group advertised for members in magazine for paedophiles: New evidence links NCCL to PIE while Harriet was legal chief
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568850/Harmans-pressure-group-advertised-members-magazine-paedophiles-New-evidence-links-NCCL-PIE-Harriet-legal-chief.html
Last updated: February 27th, 2014
The Harriet Harman 'paedophilia' scandal is a disaster of Labour's own making
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100261439/the-harriet-harman-paedophilia-scandal-is-a-disaster-of-labours-own-making/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10663580/Patricia-Hewitts-civil-rights-campaign-offered-legal-advice-to-adults-who-have-sex-with-14-year-olds.html
1 March 2014
What’s happened to Harriet Harman?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/life/status-anxiety/9148051/toby-young-whats-happened-to-harriet-harman/
Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.41 GMT
Lobbying by paedophile campaign revealed
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/26/lobbying-paedophile-campaign-revealed-hewitt
PUBLISHED: 01:36, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:36, 27 February 2014
STEPHEN GLOVER: The Left argue that a sexual free-for-all in the 70s explains their tolerance of child sex abusers. What twisted bunkum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2568920/STEPHEN-GLOVER-The-Left-argue-sexual-free-70s-explains-tolerance-child-sex-abusers-What-twisted-bunkum.html
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27/02/2014
World at One
"A good deal of sympathy for your objectives"
Duration: 09:06
"Shaun Ley reports on the efforts of the Paedophile Information Exchange to gain support from politicians and links between PIE and the National Council of Civil Liberties."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01t01rb
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Vol. 2 No. 23: 4 December 1980
Young Love
"Paedophilia: The Radical Case by Tom O’Carroll Peter Owen, 280 pp, £14.95, October 1980, ISBN 0 7206 0546 6"
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v02/n23/mary-kay-wilmers/young-love
Firstly, The Historical Truth ...
Daily Mail, 2nd September 1983
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Then poor, young, Guy stumbles (or is pushed) in ...
Guy Adams - On occasion, so little need be said
Guy Adams @guyadams
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Not all bad, though ... Guy has, gormlessly, collected some more, very useful materials, for us ;)
Guy Adams, just another stupid, spineless kid, who will, eventually, pass through the shit-stained tabloid S-bend, of the water closet of time.
Plop.
The OSC.
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That embarrassing moment your letter from 30yrs ago admitting you're a paedo is reprinted in the Mail. LULZ @guyadams http://t.co/2dgaSoevfD
— Tom Latchem (@theboylatch) February 20, 2014
@theboylatch We doorstepped him today. Guardian reader. Lives on the South Coast. Refused to comment!
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 20, 2014
Sorry, am I getting trolled by a paedophile here? @OSCP2 @guyadams
— Tom Latchem (@theboylatch) February 20, 2014
My splash! (paedos, *not* geraniums) RT @SkyNews : DAILY MAIL: The truth about Labour apologists for paedophilia pic.twitter.com/OLTcfaJU3Y
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 18, 2014
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PUBLISHED: 23:20, 20 February 2014 | UPDATED: 04:53, 21 February 2014
Surprise, surprise, the BBC has ignored our expose [sic] of Labour's [sic] links to a child sex scandal [sic]. QUENTIN LETTS imagines its reaction if those involved were Tory
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2564334/QUENTIN-LETTS-From-Today-Newsnight-Beebs-frenzy-Can-evil-Tories-survive-scandal.html
PUBLISHED: 01:03, 21 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:03, 21 February 2014
How can Harriet call herself a feminist after this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564409/JAN-MOIR-How-Harriet-call-feminist-this.html
PUBLISHED: 00:25, 21 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:27, 21 February 2014
Inexcusable: Leading abuse charity [sic] demands [really?] apology from Labour trio with links to vile [sic] paedophile [sic] group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564397/Inexcusable-Leading-abuse-charity-demands-apology-Labour-trio-links-vile-paedophile-group.html
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Quentin Letts, Jan Moir and NAPAC - say no more
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Now, they attempt to bring in other old, establishment, guard and professional victims, to try to polish a turd ...
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8:40PM GMT 21 Feb 2014
The 'right’ to sleep with children was one 'civil liberty’ that NCCL supported
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653944/The-right-to-sleep-with-children-was-one-civil-liberty-that-NCCL-supported.html
8:50PM GMT 21 Feb 2014
'We on the Left lacked the courage to be branded 'homophobic’, so we just ignored it. I wish I hadn’t'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653950/We-on-the-Left-lacked-the-courage-to-be-branded-homophobic-so-we-just-ignored-it.-I-wish-I-hadnt.html
PUBLISHED: 02:18, 22 February 2014 | UPDATED: 13:19, 22 February 2014
Apologists for paedophilia [sic]: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group [sic], one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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Abuse victim to Harman, Hewitt, Dromey: time to admit you were wrong (my piece) http://t.co/IX29oewS66
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 22, 2014
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PUBLISHED: 02:18, 22 February 2014 | UPDATED: 13:19, 22 February 2014
Apologists for paedophilia [sic]: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group [sic], one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
@guyadams In regards to your 'questions' - not much remains, when the straw men of faulty logic are removed ...
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 22, 2014
@guyadams as for the other content, go read the literature and research, of the time (and now, for that matter) ...
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 22, 2014
@guyadams better still, put yourself (put anyone) in a head-to-head with Mr Tom and see how you perform - here you go http://t.co/xix3fZc0h7
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 22, 2014
@guyadams Now be sure to publish *all* your findings :)
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 22, 2014
Quentin Letts re Labour Peado sex scandal [sic] which BBC has ignored (but if it was Tory it would go MAD)
http://t.co/m01GPpJcSP
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— Ian Puddick (@ianpuddick) February 22, 2014
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Barbara Ellen in today's Obs: "Labour trio can't stay silent on this paedophile claim" http://t.co/sXHbEUYgQM
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 23, 2014
(Embedded tweet - click date) Sunday 23 February 2014
Labour trio can't stay silent on this paedophile claim
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/23/harriet-harman-patricia-hewitt-pie-nccl-paedophile-claims
@guyadams Yes they can Guy ... you know when you are walking down the street, and someone with 'special needs' shouts at you?
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 23, 2014
@guyadams You and your like, are equivalent to the poor folk with 'special needs' - see?
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 23, 2014
Rod Liddle asks BIG question in @thesundaytimes "imagine how BBC would react if 3 current senior Tories were linked to a Paedophile group?"
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 23, 2014
Tell us more about your paedophile chums, Harriet - Rod Liddle http://t.co/Mm7AukiMcs
— The Sunday Times (@thesundaytimes) February 23, 2014
@veniviedivici @thesundaytimes Anyone, EVERYONE, involved in helping supporting promoting excusing Paedos or supporters should be exposed!
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 23, 2014
@neilwallis1 @thesundaytimes @MailOnline We are warning you ... http://t.co/DUFqYEC6z6
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 24, 2014
Is @ostercywriter right? Does no-one care that three senior Labour politicians aided and abetted Paedophile supporters? @_TheGMan
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
A @BBC spokesman says it was an editorial decision not to cover @guyadams #piegate story. Contradicting @andymcscouse pic.twitter.com/dkXsJiVdK4
— Peter Thompson (@TheRedRag) February 24, 2014
Drum roll, please.... AUNTIE has broken her silence on PIEgate http://t.co/8bZUsp7fev
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 24, 2014
Miliband bites on Mail's Labour paedophile campaign for first time says he 'sets no store' in allegations against Harman, Dromey and Hewitt
— Matthew Bayley (@MattBayleySky) February 24, 2014
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Feb 22, 2014 20:00
Senior Labour figures have serious questions to answer about past links to vile paedophile support group
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-labours-harriet-harman-3174026
Published: 23 February 2014
Tell us more about your paedophile chums, Harriet
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comment/columns/rodliddle/article1378585.ece
PUBLISHED: 23:24, 19 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:25, 20 February 2014
Now say sorry! Ex-Yard chief calls on Labour trio to admit backing paedophilia [sic] was a 'huge mistake'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563377/Now-say-sorry-Ex-Yard-chief-calls-Labour-trio-admit-backing-paedophilia-huge-mistake.html
PUBLISHED: 23:19, 23 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:50, 23 February 2014
How much longer can paedophilia apologists [?] stay silent? Even Left demands answers from senior Labour trio over links to child sex group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566273/How-longer-paedophilia-apologists-stay-silent-Even-Left-demands-answers-senior-Labour-trio.html
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Friday, 21 February, 2014
A dam smart way to divert attention
"PS: Briefly, as I have a plane to catch, I guess I should mention a rather less interesting propaganda issue than the Itaipu dam film. The Daily Mail has emailed me several times in the last few days asking for a comment on their latest misleading crap about supposed Labour government support for PIE in the 1970s.
I see no point in responding, as anything I say would merely serve as another angle to keep the story going.
Not that they need my help. They have already run the story in various versions before, and will no doubt do so again at the slightest excuse, whether they have anything new to say or not. They know what keeps their punters happy, so they cannot be accused of incompetence in terms of generating sales. However, so far as this particular repetitious saga is concerned they are beginning to resemble the Daily Express, which constantly recycles a handful of stories (death of Princess Diana, disappeared toddler Madeleine McCann, miracle cure for arthritis, stormy weather ahead) to its elderly readership, who are presumably so far gone in senility they cannot remember they read the same thing only a few days before.
The Mail can take the downmarket Express route if they wish. It may be successful in sales terms, but it is hardly a recipe for respected journalism."
http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/a-dam-smart-way-to-divert-attention
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@libertyhq You have once-good people, being attacked from all asunder, and this is what matters to you?
— The OSC (@TheOSC1) February 24, 2014
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Oh, but no, the mindless, conspiracy-dribbling and knuckle-dragging, does not stop there ...
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Published on Feb 19, 2014
Meet the Pedo Supporting British MP's Sex With 4 Yr old Babies !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb6Cfj6IXE4
Published on Feb 19, 2014
UK Column Live - 19th February 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqGRTrZeemA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUr_dQZ0irQdRiwVatkuHPcA
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24 February 2014 Last updated at 17:30
Harriet Harman condemns paper's 'smear campaign'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26320942
Monday 24 February 2014 16.58 GMT
Ed Miliband rejects claims of Labour trio's links to paedophile campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/ed-miliband-labour-links-paedophile-information-exchange?CMP=twt_fd
Friday, 21 February 2014
PIE - Questions that need answering
http://jerseyric.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/pie-questions-that-need-answering.html
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BBC will now cover this by attacking the press! "Milibland rejects claims Labour trio linked to paedophile campaign http://t.co/jbihEbPeZS”
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
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24/02/2014
NCCL Statement
"In recent days I have been the subject of a politically-motivated smear campaign by the Daily Mail.
They have accused me of being an apologist for child sex abuse, of supporting a vile paedophile organisation, of having a relaxed attitude to paedophilia and of watering down child pornography laws. These are horrific allegations and I strongly deny them all of them.
This is not the first time the Daily Mail has made this horrible and untrue allegation. And, this is not the first time the Daily Mail has attacked me. The editor and proprietor of the Daily Mail are entitled to their political views and they are of course entitled to oppose what I stand for but they are not entitled to use their newspaper to smear me with innuendo because they disagree with me politically and hate my values.
I sincerely hope people won't believe these smears - I suspect even the Daily Mail doesn't believe them to be true. But given the seriousness and the aggression with which the Daily Mail are pursuing me, I feel that I need to put the facts in the public domain.
1. Allegation that I supported the lowering of the age of consent to 10
This is not true. I supported the equalisation of the age of consent (as set out in NCCL document “priorities and strategy for the executive committee June 1981") by making the age of consent the same for homosexual as well as for heterosexual sex.
2. Allegation that I opposed the law on incest
This is not true. The document they refer to was written by NCCL in 1976 before I started to work there.
3. Allegation that I was seeking to water down a proposed ban on child pornography.
This is not true. I supported the Protection of Children Bill 1978. At the start of the document it makes clear that “The NCCL deplores the exploitation of children whether in the form of use in commercial pornography or as victims of sexual assaults"
The submission argued for some amendments to guard against unintended consequences including:
- Parents being criminalised for taking pictures of their children on the beach or in the bath
- The use of pictures in sex education being criminalised
- We also proposed that the definition of indecent was too wide and instead proposed "obscene" as indecent was very broadly defined and could include Page 3 of the Sun.
The Mail have tried to make me guilty by way guilt by association.
NCCL was an organisation which anyone could apply to join and indeed any organisation could apply to be "an affiliate" on payment of a fee. When I was at NCCL there were around 6,000 members and nearly 1,000 affiliated organisations of which PIE was one.
Members and affiliates decided the organisation's policy at the AGM from year to year.
I was aware that because NCCL opposed censorship and supported gay rights, paedophiles had sought to exploit that and use NCCL as a vehicle to make their arguments. But by the time I came to work for NCCL this vile organisation had already been vigorously challenged within the organisation. Jack Dromey was instrumental in that challenge when he took over the chair of NCCL in 1976
The reason I decided to go to work for NCCL was because I actively supported the work they had done and in particular the work of their women's rights committee on the Equal Pay Act, on the introduction of the Sex Discrimination Act and for greater protection of victims of domestic violence and against race discrimination.
Since being elected to the House of Commons in 1982 and during my times in Ministerial Office I have always championed the rights of those subjected to sexual abuse - especially women and children.
I hope The Daily Mail will stop this campaign of smear and innuendo against me. I have done nothing wrong and am guilty of none of their grotesque allegations."
http://www.harrietharman.org/nccl-statement---24022014
February 24, 2014 6:35 pm
Harman issues statement on NCCL allegation – says she has been the victim of a “politically-motivated smear campaign”
http://labourlist.org/2014/02/harman-issues-statement-on-nccl-allegation-says-she-has-been-the-victim-of-a-politically-motivated-smear-campaign
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Harman finally come out today to challenge paedophile smears. Essentially, a muddle over PIE/NCCL links.
— Prof Chris Ashford (@lawandsexuality) February 24, 2014
@XenoPoesis well, an intentional muddle
— Prof Chris Ashford (@lawandsexuality) February 24, 2014
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DAILY MAIL: BUT STILL THEY WON'T SAY SORRY #skypapers pic.twitter.com/4TbFxv8wSd
— Sky News (@SkyNews) February 24, 2014
"Harriet Harman has
condemned "horrible&untrue" allegations re historic involvement in
paedo rights" So BBC will cover it now...as a smear!
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
Harriet Harman refuses repeatedly to apologise under fierce forensic @BBCNewsnight questioning over her NCCL succour for paedo campaigners
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
“@DM20120: @inducker @HarrietHarman @BBCNewsnight those falsely accused r smeared without any evidence ???” Read the documentation?
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
The Daily Mail will feel deeply vindicated by @HarrietHarman carcrash confrontation with @bbclaurak on @BBCNewsnight tonight #MailOnline
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
@waynesmith1971 couldn't give a toss about their politics - I curse all paedos & want them crucified. But vital word is publishable EVIDENCE
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 24, 2014
“@bilbocroft: @waynesmith1971 @HarrietHarman @bbclaurak @BBCNewsnight #IBlameBrian” I'm sorry you're blinded to fact it's about paedophilia
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 25, 2014
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History ..
October 19th, 2012
How Hattie’s friends defended paedophilia [sic]
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100261018/harriet-harman-the-nccl-and-paedophilia-my-article-from-2012/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
7:00AM GMT 09 Mar 2009
Harriet Harman under attack over bid to water down child pornography law
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4949555/Harriet-Harman-under-attack-over-bid-to-water-down-child-pornography-law.html
Nov 11, 2012 09:11
Abuse scandals probe widens: The man who may hold key to UK's biggest paedophile network ever
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365#.UwzZOdpdliQ.twitter
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Here's our interview- HarrietHarman's #Newsnight interview on the NCCL/Paedophile Information Exchange allegations http://t.co/Ql2S5xZAQm
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) February 24, 2014
Tom O Carroll, formerly of PIE, tells BBC NCCL didn't do much to challenge him as didn't 'want to rock the boat'
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) February 26, 2014
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Including Harriet Harman on the tabloid paedophile row, Ukraine, and Cameron in Scotland
First broadcast: 24 Feb 2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wsyqm
25/02/2014
Harman paedophile row and no trial for alleged IRA bomber. With Jeremy Paxman
First broadcast: 25 Feb 2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wtcx4
Laura Kuenssberg @bbclaurak
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak
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PUBLISHED: 22:41, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 08:14, 25 February 2014
But they still won't say sorry: Labour's Harman and Dromey finally break their silence over links to paedophile group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567054/But-wont-say-sorry-Labours-Harman-Dromey-finally-break-silence-links-paedophile-group.html
PUBLISHED: 23:02, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:33, 24 February 2014
Not one hint of remorse: Harman and Dromey's statements, and the Mail's replies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567098/Not-one-hint-remorse-Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromeys-statements-Mails-replies.html
PUBLISHED: 01:01, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:01, 25 February 2014
DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Amid the obfuscation, one word is missing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2567154/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Amid-obfuscation-one-word-missing.html
8:09PM GMT 24 Feb 2014
Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey, Patricia Hewitt and the Paedophile Information Exchange
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10659100/Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromey-Patricia-Hewitt-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
Last updated: February 25th, 2014
Harriet Harman owes the British public a full explanation about the NCCL's links with paedophile group
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100261019/harriet-harman-owes-the-british-public-a-full-explanation-about-the-nccls-links-with-paedophile-group/
25/2/14: 44 minutes ago
Harriet Harman: 'I'm not going to apologise'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26335330#TWEET1054627
25 February 2014 Last updated at 14:18
Harriet Harman expresses 'regret' after Daily Mail claims
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26333558#TWEET1054659
2:00PM GMT 25 Feb 2014
Harriet Harman's regret over civil rights body's paedophile group link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10660306/Harriet-Harmans-regret-over-civil-rights-bodys-paedophile-group-link.html
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Harman’s attempt to pass paedophile story off as Daily Mail “smear” is a political mistake. Post for @TelepgraphBlogs http://t.co/ejRXvwQsCX
— Toby Young (@toadmeister) February 25, 2014
@toadmeister @guyadams The answer to your q, is - no, it was not a mistake, it was (and still is) all a learned and principled civil rights
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 25, 2014
@toadmeister @guyadams group should do (cf ACLU/NAMBLA, now) - unfortunately, Liberty are far from that, to society's and truth's loss.
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 25, 2014
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Stop the Daily Mail sexualising children
https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/daily-mail-mailonline-stop-the-daily-mail-sexualising-children
When it comes to decency and sexualisation of children, would you take lessons from the Daily Mail? pic.twitter.com/MXmWhOILKQ
— Harriet Harman (@HarrietHarman) February 25, 2014
Harriet Harman tweets Daily Mail website picture of girl aged 12 in bikini http://t.co/iRoQeFYQfK @GdnPolitics
— The Guardian (@guardian) February 25, 2014
Harman tweet response to Mail allegation seems v.badly judged. "They do sleaze too" is v.poor defence + sleazy pics v.diff from PIE links
— Toby Harnden (@tobyharnden) February 25, 2014
According to Labour PO, @EmilyThornberry is the only Labour MP publicly defending Harriet Harman. Looking forward to talking with you, Emily
— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) February 25, 2014
Article on the sexualisation of children http://t.co/IJNdNWhhBJ mentioning my Daily Mail petition - >30k signatures! https://t.co/u8nMZArjPq
— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) February 26, 2014
(Embedded tweets - click date)Wednesday 26 February 2014 19.09 GMT
The fight against the sexualisation of children
http://www.theguardian.com/media/shortcuts/2014/feb/26/fight-against-sexualisation-children
Harriet Harman tweets Daily Mail website picture of girl aged 12 in bikini
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail-website-girl-bikini?CMP=twt_gu
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February 25, 2014
LABoraTORY PAEDOPHILIA: Part Two – why the Opposition has nothing much to say on the subject
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/laboratory-paedophilia-part-two-why-the-opposition-has-nothing-much-to-say-on-the-subject/
3:12pm UK, Tuesday 25 February 2014
Harman Denies Colluding With Paedophile Group
http://news.sky.com/story/1216883/harman-denies-colluding-with-paedophile-group
25 February 2014
How paedophile campaigners targeted civil liberties group
http://www.channel4.com/news/harriet-harman-pie-nccl-daily-mail-labour
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Harriet Harman and the PIE: Legitimate story or smear campaign? Excellent blog by @IainDale http://t.co/ZhWWYbiCaI
— LBC (@LBC) February 25, 2014
New Blog by me: Harman & the NCCL: What Has the BBC Really Learnt?: One of the most irritating phrases you wil... http://t.co/ujpCT1GET5
— Iain Dale (@IainDale) February 25, 2014
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February 25, 2014 at 08:23AM
Harriet Harman, the NCCL: Smear Or Legitimate Story?
"Iain takes the Daily Mail to task.
One of the most irritating phrases you will ever hear on television is “the BBC has learnt”. You’d think it meant that due to an original piece of journalism, the BBC has found out something nobody else has. Invariably it means the BBC has switched on Sky News.
Sky use a similar technique by using the phrase “Sky sources have told us.” But in each case it gives the broadcaster cover to hype up a story that might otherwise be considered a little pedestrian. And it perverts the news agenda. But this sort of thing happens every day. Take the current furore about Harriet Harman, the Daily Mail, and the NCCL.
Over the last few days both the BBC and Sky have studiously ignored the front pages of the Daily Mail, which has accused Harriet Harman of, well, I’m not totally sure exactly. It seems they think that because she was legal officer to the NCCL she must have somehow sympathised with the aims and objectives of one of its thousands of members, the Paedophile Information Exchange. It’s a ‘guilt by association’ smear which upon any reasonable examination doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. But day after day the Daily Mail demands that Harman, her husband Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt say ‘sorry’. It’s the same kind of tactic they used on Ed Miliband back in September.
Conservatives have up to now attacked the BBC for not even mentioning the issue, understandably believing that if three Tory politicians had been accused of something similar the BBC might not have been so coy. We’ll never know. However, the BBC could defend its position by pointing out that these allegations are nothing new and were first aired back in 2009. That would be a sustainable editorial position.
But yesterday the game changed when Harriet Harman decided to break cover and respond to the allegations by giving the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg an interview. It turned out to be a bad move. Instead of saying that it was a clear mistake for the NCCL to allow the PIE to be an associate member, she prevaricated and appeared a little shifty. Not only that she compounded her error by accusing the Daily Mail of being hypocritical because it publishes pictures of bikini-clad young women on its website. Women, not girls. So instead of closing down the story, it has merely given all other media outlets the excuse to cover it on the basis that if Harriet Harman has spoken about it, it becomes a legitimate story.
Cue BBC overkill. It’s now leading bulletins on the Today Programme and 5 Live. I haven’t seen Sky News yet this morning, so I can’t comment on what they are doing but as it’s the lead story on their website it’s probable that it is leading their bulletins too.
I’ve steered clear of the story on my LBC show, not because of any desire to be politically correct, but because I genuinely don’t see this as a massive story. I see it as a politically-motivated smear by a newspaper which is besmirching its own good name by running it day after day after day.
Does anyone seriously believe Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt have any paedophile sympathies? No, of course not. They worked for a ramshackle organisation which was run in an anarchic way. Just as anyone with dubious views can join a political party, anyone or any organisation with dubious views could join the NCCL. Does anyone seriously think that Harman, a lowly junior legal officer, had the power to expel a member who had legitimately joined? Presumably to do so would have meant changing the NCCL’s constitution. Perhaps she and her husband tried to do that. Who knows? But remember that one of the NCCL’s aims was to promote freedom of speech for everyone, no matter how vile their views.
The biggest mistake Harriet Harman has made was to give that interview to Newsnight. All it succeeded in doing was fanning the story’s flames and giving other media organisations and newspapers to excuse they needed to cover it. Well, that’s all fine and dandy, but the overblown and blanket coverage it is getting is so out of proportion to the lack of coverage it got yesterday, that editors all over the place, but especially the BBC, would do well to examine why they are doing what they are doing. Are they doing this because it is such an important story or because of their collective feeling of guilt that maybe they should have given it some coverage well before today?
When I go into LBC today and we start planning my Drive programme, it will be interesting to see how the story has developed during the day. If I cover it at all – and at the moment my feeling is that I’d rather not – it will be looking at the behaviour of the Daily Mail, more than the behaviour of Harriet Harman. No doubt I will get a shedload of abuse for it, but hey – broad shoulders and all that."
http://www.lbc.co.uk/iain-dales-blog-30195/entry/120/9927
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Yet another Tory smear from the, er, Mirror...
There is a paedophile elephant in the corner of Labour’s living room http://t.co/lsAlxqZQCE
— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) February 25, 2014
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Feb 25, 2014 17:05
There is a paedophile elephant in the corner of Labour’s living room
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-partys-paedogeddon-theyre-never-3182595#.Uwz4EjrL_3E.twitter
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Tuesday 25 February 2014 16.02 GMT
PIE, the NCCL and Harriet Harman: why she was right not to apologise
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail
8:17PM GMT 25 Feb 2014
New evidence casts doubt on Harriet Harman's defence over paedophile links
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10661251/New-evidence-casts-doubt-on-Harriet-Harmans-defence-over-paedophile-links.html
PUBLISHED: 10:55, 26 February 2014 | UPDATED: 11:48, 26 February 2014
Harman and Hewitt 'never tried to kick me out - they didn't want to rock the boat to protect their careers' claims child abuser ex leader of Paedophile Information Exchange
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568232/Harman-Hewitt-never-tried-kick-didnt-want-rock-boat-protect-careers-claims-child-abuser-ex-leader-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
9:55AM GMT 26 Feb 2014
'Harman did not want to rock the boat over links to child sex group'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10662047/Harman-did-not-want-to-rock-the-boat-over-links-to-child-sex-group.html
Wednesday, 26 February, 2014
Home Secretary cheated justice by dying!
http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/home-secretary-cheated-justice-by-dying/
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Full credit again to @bbclaurak on @BBCNewsnight for continuing to investigate & expose @HarrietHarman etc link to NCCL/Paedo association
— Neil Wallis (@neilwallis1) February 25, 2014
Wow Lawrence Gostin ex Gen Sec NCCL has astonishing views on freedom of speech and promotion of paedophilia on #newsnight
— EVAW Coalition (@EVAWhd) February 25, 2014
Former NCCL director general Lawrence Gostin: "The Paedophile Information Exchange was about information, not about the act" #newsnight
— Ian Katz (@iankatz1000) February 25, 2014
Former NCCL general secretary says paedophilia is "unconscionable" but the right of speech can't be condemned #newsnight
— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) February 25, 2014
Paxman/@BBCNewsnight adding to the hysteria by referring to 'act of paedophilia'. It's sexual interest - the 'act' is child abuse #newsnight
— Craig Harper (@CraigHarper19) February 25, 2014
PIE member Tom O'Carroll challenges idea the group was sidelined from NCCL in 1976 in 1st comments in Harman row http://t.co/imhsEttPKU
— Rowena Mason (@rowenamason) February 25, 2014
@OSCP2 @CraigHarper "Paedophilia" has become a word of normal usage with different meaning to its psychiatric use. Won't get it back in bag
— Zen o'Poesis (@XenoPoesis) February 25, 2014
(Embedded tweets - click date) Tuesday 25 February 2014 20.59 GMT
Harriet Harman demands apology for Daily Mail's paedophile 'smears'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-apology-daily-mail-paedophile-smears?CMP=twt_gu
25 February 2014 20:10
Harriet Harman’s messy war with the Mail
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/02/harriet-harmans-messy-war-with-the-mail/
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The Daily Mail now grasps at ridiculous straws ...
PUBLISHED: 23:43, 24 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:43, 24 February 2014
BBC's censorship of paedophilia scandal 'reveals its left-wing bias': Corporation accused of refusing to report story to protect the Labour party
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567110/BBCs-censorship-paedophilia-scandal-reveals-left-wing-bias-Corporation-accused-refusing-report-story-protect-Labour-party.html
PUBLISHED: 23:18, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 09:38, 26 February 2014
The child sex attacker and Soviet spy who was in the vile group legitimised by Harman and chums
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567991/The-child-sex-attacker-Soviet-spy-vile-group-legitimised-Harman-chums.html
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26 February 2014 Last updated at 11:43
What is the Harman-Mail row about?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26335569
27 February 2014 Last updated at 13:14
How did the pro-paedophile group PIE exist openly for 10 years?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378
@tdecastella @tomheyden We suggest you do a little more work on your research - TY - http://t.co/T7KdmrpQHu
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
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Wednesday 26 February 2014
Looking back to the great British paedophile infiltration campaign of the 1970s
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/looking-back-to-the-great-british-paedophile-infiltration-campaign-of-the-1970s-9155610.html
@stop1984 @ian_pace No ... when do you intend to?
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 26, 2014
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26/2/14: 2 hours ago
Jowell: Harman 'consistent' in opposition to PIE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26350517
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Uncle Tom still playing his silly little games ...
PUBLISHED: 23:10, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:36, 25 February 2014
Labour MP calls for probe into state cash for Paedophile Information Exchange after claims files that prove it received taxpayers' money have been shredded
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567999/Labour-MP-calls-probe-state-cash-Paedophile-Information-Exchange-claims-files-prove-received-taxpayers-money-shredded.html
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5198/police-poised-to-level-charges-in-paedophile-ring-linked-to-mps
Wednesday 26 February 2014
Labour MP Tom Watson admits he would not have touched paedophile rights group PIE 'with a bargepole'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-mp-tom-watson-admits-he-would-not-have-touched-paedophile-rights-group-pie-with-a-bargepole-9155518.html
Labour MP Tom Watson admits he would not have touched paedophile rights group PIE 'with a bargepole' http://t.co/o6Xn5DmypW
— TheIndyPolitics (@IndyPolitics) February 26, 2014
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Feb 25, 2014 19:16
Tories must say sorry for 'covering up child sex abuse' before Harriet Harman has to apologise
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tom-watson-tories-must-apologise-3183049
Professor Roy Greenslade declares Harriet Harman's recent efforts at crisis management: "wholly inept" http://t.co/zPlghJeWEQ
— Guy Adams (@guyadams) February 26, 2014
@StigAbell One story, Stig, one story... but I agree about the expert bit, of course
— Roy Greenslade (@GreensladeR) February 21, 2014
Prof now on #newsnight not really helping Harriet Harman's case
— Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) February 25, 2014
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Harriet Harman's handling of the Daily Mail 'smear' has been wholly inept
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail-smear-inept
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BBC loves PIE @BBCPropaganda
https://twitter.com/BBCPropaganda
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26 February 2014 18.04 GMT
Harriet Harman: 'The Daily Mail should be apologising, not me'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/harriet-harman-daily-mail-apologising-paedophilia?CMP=twt_fd
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Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.02 GMT
Harriet Harman rejects claims from paedophile campaigner Tom O'Carroll
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/harriet-harman-rejects-claims-from-paedophile-campaigner-tom-ocarroll?CMP=twt_fd
Last updated Wed 26 Feb 2014
Ex-PIE chair 'confident Harman was aware of situation'
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-26/ex-pie-chair-confident-harman-was-aware-of-situation/
Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.41 GMT
Lobbying by paedophile campaign revealed
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/26/lobbying-paedophile-campaign-revealed-hewitt
PUBLISHED: 23:32, 26 February 2014 | UPDATED: 00:08, 27 February 2014
Harman's pressure group advertised for members in magazine for paedophiles: New evidence links NCCL to PIE while Harriet was legal chief
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568850/Harmans-pressure-group-advertised-members-magazine-paedophiles-New-evidence-links-NCCL-PIE-Harriet-legal-chief.html
Last updated: February 27th, 2014
The Harriet Harman 'paedophilia' scandal is a disaster of Labour's own making
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100261439/the-harriet-harman-paedophilia-scandal-is-a-disaster-of-labours-own-making/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10663580/Patricia-Hewitts-civil-rights-campaign-offered-legal-advice-to-adults-who-have-sex-with-14-year-olds.html
1 March 2014
What’s happened to Harriet Harman?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/life/status-anxiety/9148051/toby-young-whats-happened-to-harriet-harman/
Wednesday 26 February 2014 23.41 GMT
Lobbying by paedophile campaign revealed
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/26/lobbying-paedophile-campaign-revealed-hewitt
PUBLISHED: 01:36, 27 February 2014 | UPDATED: 01:36, 27 February 2014
STEPHEN GLOVER: The Left argue that a sexual free-for-all in the 70s explains their tolerance of child sex abusers. What twisted bunkum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2568920/STEPHEN-GLOVER-The-Left-argue-sexual-free-70s-explains-tolerance-child-sex-abusers-What-twisted-bunkum.html
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27/02/2014
World at One
"A good deal of sympathy for your objectives"
Duration: 09:06
"Shaun Ley reports on the efforts of the Paedophile Information Exchange to gain support from politicians and links between PIE and the National Council of Civil Liberties."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01t01rb
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It needs to be stressed - no intrinsic link between gay rights and paedophilia - rather, paed campaigners tried to hijack gay rights mvts
— Ian Pace (@ian_pace) February 27, 2014
@ian_pace Needs to be stressed .. total intrinsic link, in many cases. There are LGBT Ps, there are P LGBTs - In fact, there is only LGBTP.
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
PIE was primarily a male gay paed organisation (with a few lesbian members), and used that fact to appropriate language of identity politics
— Ian Pace (@ian_pace) February 27, 2014
@ian_pace There you go, as we said, G Ps and L Ps - TY.
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
Did Public fund #Paedophiles #PIE ??
Yes is the answer
#AlbanyTrust funded by #HomeOffice gave public money to #PIE pic.twitter.com/Gvd9bg6N8r
— Ian Puddick (@ianpuddick) February 27, 2014
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Vol. 2 No. 23: 4 December 1980
Young Love
"Paedophilia: The Radical Case by Tom O’Carroll Peter Owen, 280 pp, £14.95, October 1980, ISBN 0 7206 0546 6"
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v02/n23/mary-kay-wilmers/young-love
Sunday, 16 February 2014
10/2/14 - Time For A Few Home Truths - An Opportunity, So As, To 'Educate Yourself' - Part 2 - Better To Walk Away And Let Natural Selection Play Its Part?
@jdpoc I just think if they can suspend MHC they can suspend #OSC - a known convicted paedophile who the #police know operates accts??
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 16, 2014
@jdpoc hi John how can they not do this for trolls & #OSC then?
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 16, 2014
I stand wiith & support @ThePhoenixPost auto internet ban for all convicted child predators - kids are off limits NO excuses plz follow PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 16, 2014
Will you stand with @ThePhoenixPost internet auto ban for all convicted child predators - kids are off limits - NO excuses #OSC PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 17, 2014
#AVP I'm not allowed to talk about paedophiles in case I upset/offend them or prejudice their justice .. or hadn't you noticed?
— Shy Keenan (@ShyKeenan) February 17, 2014
For years I've been stalked/abused by a group of online paedophiles and their supporters using 'Professional Death By Malicious Complaints'
— Shy Keenan (@ShyKeenan) February 19, 2014
I stand with @ThePhoenixPost Auto internet ban for ALL child predators - kids are off limits PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 24, 2014
PARENTS - Do you know what #OSC Is? http://t.co/4xHTBmM8l5 child predators - stay safe, be proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 24, 2014
PARENTS - Do you know what #OSC Is? http://t.co/4xHTBmM8l5 child predators - stay safe, be proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 24, 2014
How can anyone other than a child predator be "pro paedophile?
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 25, 2014
Do you know what #OSC is? Child predators the online sex offenders community! http://t.co/4xHTBmM8l5 Be wise in who you follow! PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 26, 2014
#OSC Online sex offenders community - PARENTS be proactive, know who YOUR child is conversing with http://t.co/4xHTBmv5j5 PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 26, 2014
The #OSC don't like me very much but I don't mind because I loathe them http://t.co/4xHTBmv5j5
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 26, 2014
@EveThomas40 @OCarroll54 This is not about liking or not, it is about you harassing posters, with lies and disinformation.
— TheOSC (@OSCP2) February 27, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 1, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/zX4CeuoVDO Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) February 28, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/zX4CeuoVDO Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 1, 2014
The sex offender so brazen he's sharing a link to my blog post about him via @Telegraph http://t.co/PqpMvQ0xRX @EveThomas40 #OSC #Honesty
— Henry O'Carroll (@OCarroll54) March 1, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 1, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 2, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 2, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
@KrustyAllslopp @KaiserOfCrisps @BBCNews IMO bock needs to mean block, auto internet ban for all child predators & online police presence
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
@KrustyAllslopp @KaiserOfCrisps @BBCNews The auto ban? @ThePhoenixPost are campaigning for it, I fully support
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
I see #OSC have made a new acct to troll me Evidence, block, report pic.twitter.com/VvF1mfrNqP
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
I do NOT discriminate apart from child predators who I loathe. #OSC doesn't like me very much - 1 word TOUGH!
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
@EveThomas40 We are not child predators - you are a dangerous and inept liar - added to list.
— The OSC (@OSCP3) March 3, 2014
IMPORTANT #OSC Online Sex Offenders Community have a new account - please report pic.twitter.com/zAMYXrwbR9
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
IMPORTANT - what is #OSC http://t.co/4xHTBmv5j5 stay safe, be proactive PLRT pic.twitter.com/2qd76TosoC
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
@EveThomas40 Your lies and harassment have been reported to Twitter and the police.
— The OSC (@OSCP3) March 3, 2014
@survivorsrusuk he is trying to bait me that is why he's contacted you. He's sick & in need of help. We are stronger than him! Hugs x
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 3, 2014
@EveThomas40 @survivorsrusuk we are informing you of ongoing legal proceedings, FYI.
— The OSC (@OSCP3) March 3, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
@OSCP4 piss off paedophile
— Batty (@InnaMood) March 3, 2014
@InnaMood Ignore him - he's sick & gets a kick out of harassing victims. Take back control & be stronger than him - he's a nothing, a nobody
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
Whoopee ALL the #OSC accts have been suspended, about time - please keep it that way @twitter @support #kidsofflimits
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
@RubyJepson oh yes, LFB it's being dealt with & #OSC accts have now all been suspended :) #peace it's very welcoming :))
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
@EveThomas40 @RubyJepson @twitter reminder, remove the illegal page, on your website.
— The OSC (@OSCP4) March 4, 2014
@LDKLx yes I've noticed - he's not worth the oxygen :)) x
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 4, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 5, 2014
@UKPaedos_Named @mlilleker @DenverElle @mwalkerdine @reeves3915 he has oscp3, oscp4 and oscp5 accts as well.
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 5, 2014
I will state again #OSC 1,2,3,4 & 5 & however many other accts you have. I do NOT wish to converse with you. You are causing distress
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 5, 2014
@mwalkerdine Hi Martin yes I know & thank you. He is blocked & reported. http://t.co/4xHTBmv5j5 I hope you are well
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 5, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 6, 2014
@EveThomas40 Remove the page. Cease and desist.
— The OSC (@OSCP4) March 6, 2014
@Kevin_Healey @BBCBreakfast Twitter need to pull their socks up quick smart IMO. #OSC constantly harassing #csa victims - it's wrong
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 7, 2014
@EveThomas40 @Kevin_Healey @BBCBreakfast Make sure we are invited, Ms Thomas - so we can show your tactics.
— The OSC (@OSCP4) March 7, 2014
@lilliegreen10 he is but he's stalking my TL & decided to pounce on Kevin - I can't see his tweets which is very good :)) x
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 7, 2014
@EveThomas40 @Kevin_Healey @BBCBreakfast Liar - we stated, quite clearly, on @OSCP4 that we have no issue with Kevin.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 7, 2014
@EveThomas40 @lilliegreen10 Cannot stalk in an open SN, under ToS.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 7, 2014
@Kevin_Healey @BBCBreakfast Kevin the #OSC are not good - online sex offenders community. I advise block
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 7, 2014
@EveThomas40 @Kevin_Healey @BBCBreakfast You know full well our name does not mean that - Cease and Desist. Added.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 7, 2014
PARENTS: Do you know what #OSC is? The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS http://t.co/XXCuQKiJex Be SAFE, be #proactive PLRT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) March 9, 2014
@DAVIDJONES_dpaj how many more UK campaigners will @twitter do this to? Denise, Kevin, Sara, Shy, me yet #OSC for 1 are still here?
— #EvesLaw #SAFE (@EvesLaw) March 16, 2014
PARENTS!!!!! IMPORTANT!!!
Do you know what #OSC is?
http://t.co/7X37oxptNl
Be #proative
Be #SAFE
#RT
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 24, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @katiebr30184354 You are a dangerous liar. You are directing people to false and dangerous information, Cease and Desist.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 24, 2014
PARENTS!!!!! IMPORTANT!!!
Do you know what #OSC is?
http://t.co/7X37oxptNl
Be #proative
Be #SAFE
#RT
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 24, 2014
@OneVoiceEve You are a dangerous liar. Remove the offensive and dangerous links, to lies and misinformation, from your website.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 25, 2014
PARENTS!!!!! IMPORTANT!!!
Do you know what #OSC is?
http://t.co/7X37oxptNl
Be #proative
Be #SAFE
#RT
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 25, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @OCarroll54 You are a dangerous liar. Remove the offensive and dangerous links, to lies and misinformation, from your website.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 25, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @OCarroll54 Do care, or even know, why you are?
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 25, 2014
Must say I'm extremely unhappy with the contact from @CEOPUK - can someone contact please - evethomas@evethomas.co.uk - Urgent
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 25, 2014
PARENTS!! #OSC has declared his identity - now PLEASE google - I cannot stress this enough - keep your children #SAFE pic.twitter.com/OrBFKbauK4
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
Yes we know who you are #OSC a convicted child predator, a paedophile GUILTY of possessing illegal images of children pic.twitter.com/lvbyEe2jps
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
Nigel Oldfield - Doncaster/Buxton/Rotherham http://t.co/fqYmjfuaSv via @UKPaedos_Named
— Ian Mcfadyen (@IanMcFadyen1966) March 30, 2014
@SindonaX @EndTheInsult @IanMcFadyen1966 oh it's not trolling it's harassment of victims, #csa #dva victims by #OSC but followed 😊
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
@greenninja153 BS is not a favourite of mine - say it how it is or not at all IMO 😊
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @greenninja153 If I claimed you were a prostitute, here, how would you feel and what would you do?
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 30, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @greenninja153 Your lies are doing is even worse, as they are dangerous, in terms of vigilante attacks etc.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 30, 2014
@OneVoiceEve @greenninja153 Consequences.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) March 30, 2014
@OSCP5 I really do suggest that you do not contact #childabuse victims who I converse with - heed my warning Oldfield
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
@OSCP5 I really do suggest that you do not contact #childabuse victims who I converse with - heed my warning Oldfield
— EveThomas (@OneVoiceEve) March 30, 2014
@IanMcFadyen1966 @OSCP5 @OneVoiceEve @markevie IMO a sad pervert with a distorted view of life. I wonder what he does now?
— Jim Gamble (@JimGamble_INEQE) March 30, 2014
@ed2inspire done and dusted, but in want his ppu to be aware
— Ian Mcfadyen (@IanMcFadyen1966) March 30, 2014
@OSCP12d You have been warned EVERY time - I do not wish to converse with a child predator, a pervert STOP
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 13, 2014
PARENTS - Do you know what #OSC is?
The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS
http://t.co/zX4CeuoVDO
Be #SAFE #RT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 14, 2014
@BarbaraHewson @IanMcFadyen1966 @RochdaleOnline OSC convicted paedophile, a predator, pervert, sick man, cognitive disorders, needs prison
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 14, 2014
Arrest over Facebook death post- RIP James & glad police acting http://t.co/AxkBFXWFsl
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 14, 2014
PARENTS - Do you know what #OSC is?
The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS
http://t.co/zX4CeuoVDO
Be #SAFE #RT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 14, 2014
@spiritwriter66 these people openly converse with #OSC & join Oldfield in his attacks on victims, #csa victims especially, I expect better -
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 15, 2014
PARENTS - Do you know what #OSC is?
The online sex offenders community - CHILD PREDATORS
http://t.co/zX4CeuoVDO
Be #SAFE #RT
— Eve Thomas (@EveThomas40) April 14, 2014
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Eve Thomas @EveThomas40
https://twitter.com/EveThomas40
Shy Keenan @ShyKeenan
https://twitter.com/ShyKeenan
The Phoenix Post @ThePhoenixPost
https://twitter.com/ThePhoenixPost
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Saturday 15 February 2014
Statement about suspension of ‘Mental Health Cop’ Twitter account
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/news.aspx?id=333
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When one is a professional, and has taught adults and minors, for most of one's working life, formally and informally, one learns, that people can be the following ...
Those with the lower, unchangeable, cognitive abilities - The 'Stupid',
Those with the higher, unchangeable, cognitive abilities - The 'Clever',
Those in-between.
Those who hate-blindly - The 'Bigot', The 'Ignorant',
Those who hate, for some, evidenced, reason - The 'Victim',
Those in-between.
Of course, it is much easier to like, and make friendships with, some of these, than others - but, all can have an edifying and positive contribution (if tiny), to one's development, spirit and wisdom.
The problems arise, when people come in certain combinations and in certain environments.
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