Why Are These Non-Groomers Being Successfully Prosecuted? - Attempting The Impossible

For example ...

Monday 11 August 2014 Updated: 01/09 12:29 

Pervert [sic] trapped in underage sex sting

"The girl’s profile, on which her real name was used, said she was 14, and included a picture which was obviously of a school-age girl.

In fact, although the picture was of a real 14-year-old, it was a fake profile which had been placed on the site by a man called John Stokes, a member of a group calling itself Letz Go Hunting."

http://www.leamingtonobserver.co.uk/2014/10/14/news-Pervert-trapped-in-underage-sex-sting-114219.html

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The Impossible Situation, in law ...

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/sexual_offences

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/15

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/inchoate_offences

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/47

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Shivpuri

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What we should like to see happen ...

We want inchoate offences, inapplicable, in the case of no real minor - ideally, the 'impossibility allowed clause', to be removed, for all 'offences'.

We want it made an offence, for a person, to carry out an illegal activity (entrapment and encouragement, in these cases), without direct, operational, contact, with the relevant authorities. 

The OSC

Stinson Hunter - It Seems Things Are Moving On (Part 1)

Hunter watch

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hunter-watch/557458774312230

Stinson Hunter

https://www.facebook.com/stinsonhunterofficial?fref=ts

https://twitter.com/stinsonxhunter

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Comment

'Stinson', we did warn you, time-and-time again - the posts are here for all to see.

If you would like us to be an intermediary, between yourself and those who may bring you down (and that could turn very nasty ... a thing we have been trying to avoid, all along) - please email us, top right.

You need to know, more information and materials are available.

If we were in your position, we would take all our videos down, and anything which names or identifies (by any means) any person.

If you want to pretend to masturbate, with older men, on social networks, that is your choice - as long as you pass all information, to the police, and do nothing else.

Seems our advice needs to be taken, now - for everyone's sake. Peace must return.

The OSC

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Published on September 23rd, 2013

Vigilante Britain: why paedophile hunters need to put down their pitchforks
 
http://planetivy.com/uknews/76394/letzgo-hunting-and-the-rise-of-uk-vigilantes

September 20, 2013

Letzgohunting Make Criminal Threats Against Critics – Still No Arrests by Police

http://theantifeminist.com/letzgohunting-make-criminal-threats-against-critics-still-no-arrests-by-police/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Sep 26 2013

Hinckley paedophile [sic] vigilantes step aside over fears of being busted themselves

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news-in-hinckley/local-news/hinckley-news/2013/09/26/hinckley-paedophile-vigilantes-step-aside-over-fears-of-being-busted-themselves-105367-33885951

17:27 Tuesday 24 September 2013

News Analysis - 'We don't need the paedophile [sic] hunters'

http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/News-Analysis-We-dont-need-the-paedophile-hunters-20130924172657.htm

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LetzgoHunting

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

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Anti Vigilante

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-Vigilante/556310994418098

https://twitter.com/anti__vigilante

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Part 2, here

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Hunting The Hunters

PUBLISHED: 22:08, 20 September 2013 | UPDATED: 22:08, 20 September 2013

Vigilante who hunts 'child sex predators': Leader of group that closed down following suicide of man it targeted pleaded for anonymity when confronted by the Mail

">Leicester Police told the Mail not to identify the man to protect his family,
>He is the leader of the Letzgo Hunting group set up nine months ago,
>Gang's methods criticised at inquest of 29-year-old engineer Gary Cleary,
>He hanged himself days after the vigilante group accused him of grooming.

Controversial: Police asked the Mail not to reveal the vigilante's identity to protect his family.

This is the Leicestershire man behind a disturbing phenomenon of vigilantes who set out to hunt down and trap suspected child sex offenders, and expose them on the internet.

He is the self-appointed leader of Letzgo Hunting, a gang that closed down this week [sure?] just nine months after he set it up, following the suicide of a man it accused of grooming a pre-pubescent girl for sex over the internet.

The gang’s members acted as detectives, judges and jurors towards those they targeted."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2427433/Vigilante-hunts-child-sex-predators-Leader-group-closed-following-suicide-man-targeted-pleaded-anonymity-confronted-Mail.html

23/09/2013

Inside Out East Midlands

"Investigating Letzgohunting.

Who are online paedophile [sic]hunters Letzgohunting? Marie Ashby meets the parents who pursue paedophiles [sic] by posing as young girls online. If the men agree to a meeting they confront them on camera then publish the video and pass their evidence to police. But do their methods risk interfering with police investigations and should they be doing what they do?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03bq289/Inside_Out_East_Midlands_23_09_2013/

Letzgone?

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

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Addendum (20/9/13)

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

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Friday, September 20, 2013 

Anti-paedophile [sic] group Letzgo Hunting closes down

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Anti-paedophile-group-Letzgo-Hunting-closes/story-19824111-detail/story.html

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20 September 2013 Last updated at 15:05 

Letzgo Hunting target JS jailed for child sex abuse

"But police said the footage played no part in the case and they acted after the victim's mother contacted them."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24179292

Paedophile [sic] caught [sic] by 'Letzgo Hunting' internet vigilantes is jailed after posing as schoolboy to groom girl on Facebook

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2427030/Paedophile-caught-Letzgo-Hunting-internet-vigilantes-jailed-posing-schoolboy-groom-girl-Facebook.html

20 September 2013, Last updated at 15:57

Mother credits Letzgo Hunting for catching daughter's abuser 

"Police said evidence collected by the group played no part in the conviction."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-24151189

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20 Sep 2013 08:17

‘Paedophile hunter’ says he may quit after suicide of man targeted by copycats

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventy-paedophile-hunter-says-quit-6068327

Now There Is Trouble And Regret, At The Vigilante Mills - Well Done, Perhaps You Do Have A Conscience

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Letzgo Hunting - Yet Another Suicide

http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/letzgo-hunting-suicide-number-2.html

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https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

https://www.facebook.com/stinsonhunterofficial/posts/196790060492919

https://www.facebook.com/stinsonhunterofficial

The OSC

Letzgo Hunting - Yet Another Suicide

Tuesday, September 17, 2013

A man committed suicide days after a group of “paedophile hunters” accused him of sexually grooming a child [sic] over the internet.

"The 29-year-old was arrested by Leicestershire Police after the group, Letzgo Hunting, handed officers film of its members confronting him with the allegations.

A screengrab from the Letzgo Hunting website. The group was set up in Hinckley area of Leicestershire this year

The man was released on bail while officers looked into the accusations.

He was found hanging in his home, in the Market Bosworth area, four days later."

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Paedophile-hunters-confronted-man-days-later/story-19804481-detail/story.html#axzz2fB9viV8A

‘Paedophile hunters’ undeterred by man’s suicide

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article3871589.ece

Paedophile [sic] hunters accused man, 29, of online child grooming days before he was found hanged

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2423612/Paedophile-hunters-accused-man-29-online-child-grooming-days-hanged.html

GC suicide: Man hangs himself after vigilantes accuse him of being a paedophile

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gary-cleary-hangs-himself-after-2280871

Child grooming suspect killed himself after being lured out by vigilantes

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/18/child-grooming-suspect-killed-himself-after-being-lured-out-by-vigilantes-4045146/

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Their response?

LetzgoHuntingOfficial

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

@LetzgoHunting 

https://twitter.com/LetzgoHunting

Barbaric morons.

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Addendum (21:03)

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

We have nothing to say to you, presently.

It would be like trying to explain quantum mechanics to a chimpanzee.

We have said all you need to know, to Stinson Hunter, read our posts to him, if you wish. 

The OSC

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Addendum (18/8/13: 8:38)

So full of conviction, they took down the original post, with all its comments ... and posted this, as though its faulty logic, false rationalisations and back-peddling (and those of the commenting goons) changes anything ...

Unprincipled, slimey, barbaric, moronic, cowards. 

Learn from AA, he understands, more (if not 100%) than you ever could ...

https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial

The OSC

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September 18, 2013

Police fail to condemn anti-paedophile [sic] vigilantes despite victim suicide

"Police fail to condemn anti-paedophile [sic] vigilante group despite suicide of innocent man

Careful what you wish for: YOU could be next

Leicestershire police have refused to condemn an anti-paedophile [sic] vigilante group that calls itself ‘Letzgo Hunting’, despite the fact that a victim of the group who had not even been charged by police later committed suicide.

It is believed that the man who hanged himself could have been driven to suicide by the potential stigma of the accusation that he was a paedophile and the fact that Letzgo Hunting publishes videos of its confrontations online.

Disgracefully, although the Coroner in the case recorded a verdict of suicide, no mention at all of Letzgo Hunting was made at the inquest."

http://www.theopinionsite.org/police-fail-to-condemn-anti-paedophile-vigilantes-despite-victim-suicide/

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18/09/2013

Victoria Derbyshire

"Latest episode

Listen now 7 days left

Anti-paedophile [sic] vigilante group say they won't stop their work despite a man's death."

"The self-styled paedophile [sic] vigilante group 'Letzgo Hunting' tell the programme they won't change their methods after reports that a man killed himself after being pursued by the group.

The Leicester-based parents pose online as children to try to lure adults they suspect of being abusers into arranging a meeting. When their targets turn up, they're challenged by a team of adults equipped with video cameras.

We hear from the self styled leader of the group and from the former head of the The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007v5cz

Anti-paedophile [sic] vigilantes: ‘Man’s death won’t stop us’

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01gygrh

Anti-paedophile [sic] vigilante group say they won't stop their work despite man's death

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1607704-anti-paedophile-vigilante-group-say-they-won-t-stop-their-work-despite-man-s-death

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Thursday 19 September 2013

'You haven’t been speaking to a 15-year-old girl, you have been speaking to me': The rise of the online vigilante paedophile [sic] hunters 

"He described the current situation as a “complete shambles” and added: “All we ever wanted was to change the way the police work, make parents be more vigilant… now it seems to be getting lost in suicides… and blurred-out videos,” he said."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/you-havent-been-speaking-to-a-15yearold-girl-you-have-been-speaking-to-me-the-rise-of-the-online-vigilante-paedophile-hunters-8825067.html

Who are vigilante group Letzgo Hunting?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24143991

Anti paedophile [sic] vigilantes 'could put children at risk'

http://www.channel4.com/news/vigilante-paedophile-claim-letzgo-hunting-ceop-nspcc

Paedophile [sic] vigilantes terrorised us for daring to criticise them: Sisters left in fear after challenge to gang who outed online suspect

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424756/Paedophile-vigilantes-Letzgo-Hunting-terrorised-sisters-Claire-Emma-Harris-criticising-them.html

Another Suicide - Death By Facebook Vigilante

24 May 2013 00:00

Steven Rudderham: Dad falsely accused of being paedophile on Facebook found hanged

"He was traumatised when his name, address and photograph were published online, with a message calling him a “dirty perv”

A dad found hanged in a cemetery was driven to suicide after he was falsely accused on Facebook of being a paedophile, his family claim.

Steven Rudderham, 48, was traumatised when his name, address and photograph were published online, with a message calling him a “dirty perv”.

Within 15 minutes, the message had been shared hundreds of times and he received death threats via the social network.

An inquest heard he was found hanged in the graveyard three days later.

His daughter Bethany Beaumont told the hearing: “They’ve destroyed an innocent life for no reason. It was disgusting.”

His mother Carol Matthews said: “I want to know why someone did something like that. I hope they rot in hell. It took a person’s life. We will never get over it.”

Mr Rudderham was a bricklayer and was working towards examinations as a building site manager before the internet accusations, an inquest in Hull heard.

The family explained that Steven spotted a 14-year-old girl giving out contact details to a 60-year-old man on Facebook and added a comment warning her not to give out her details to people she didn’t know.

Steven’s father, David Matthews, 66, said that another user then made a copy of his son’s profile picture and posted it with a banner labelling him a paedophile."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/steven-rudderham-dad-falsely-accused-1907689

It's All Kicking Off At Numpty Manor

http://www.facebook.com/Officialscummbuster

http://www.facebook.com/dean.lloyd.77 ("... could still be a decoy ...")

Stinson Hunter

http://www.facebook.com/lordstinsonhunter

Scumm Buster

http://www.facebook.com/Officialscummbuster

Letzgo hunting

http://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial?ref=br_rs

Letzgokkerrchhinging - Not ... Get The T-Shirt

http://www.facebook.com/Officialscummbuster

Comment:
 
Who was the charity, Scumm?

The OSC

Another Bunch Of Inadequate, Cowardly, Lying, Thugs

April 22, 2013

Police fail to apprehend anti-paedophile [sic] vigilantes

"British police are failing to arrest and investigate a so called ‘anti-paedophile’ vigilante group, despite one group spokesman admitting on BBC Radio that his organisation is knowingly acting “outside of the law”.

The group – whose name we will not publish as we do not believe it deserves publicity on TheOpinionSite.org – admits trapping potential online abusers by posing as teenagers. The suspected offender is then encouraged to meet in person, held against their will and ‘questioned’ by the group who, according to its spokesman, is merely seeking an ‘explanation’ for the individual’s behaviour.

The group proudly claims that its actions so far have has caused 5 “sex offenders” to be arrested – though nothing against the individuals has been proven and none have been charged.

The vigilantes also use a quote from Genghis Khan:

“Had you not created great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”

One might be tempted to comment that this is not the ‘mission statement’ one would expect from an organisation that proclaims that it is “not our intention to hurt anyone”.

Rather interestingly, the group’s Facebook page also has a link to other child protection websites as well as a link to the neo-Nazi English Defence League.

It would seem that the police – always anxious not to offend the Sun and Daily Mail reading public – are prepared to do nothing rather than face claims that the police are not doing their job properly."

http://www.theopinionsite.org/police-fail-to-apprehend-anti-paedophile-vigilantes

Monday 22 April 2013 17.51 BST

Letzgo Hunting and the dangers of paedophile [sic] vigilantism

"This group has passed details of seven alleged paedophiles to police. But there are better ways of targeting child abuse [sic]"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/22/paedophile-vigilantism

Vigilante Paedophile [sic] Hunters, Letzgo Hunting, Pose As Underage Girls To Nab Criminals

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/22/vigilante-paedophile-hunters-scum-buster_n_3131023.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

'Vigilante' parents confront online paedophiles  [sic]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-22244811 

Police warn against 'paedophile hunting'

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/8584649/

Leave justice to us, police warn vigilante paedophile [sic] hunters using Facebook to lure suspects before confronting them 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312824/Leave-justice-police-warn-vigilante-paedophile-hunters-using-Facebook-lure-suspects-confronting-them.html

Parents DIY Their Own Pedophile-[sic]Busting Group, Successfully Bust 6 Pedophiles [sic] By Posing As Kids

http://www.mommyish.com/2013/04/22/parents-catch-online-predators-letzgo-hunting/ 

UK police concerned by anti-paedophile [sic] group 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10879233

Paedophile [sic] hunters on the lookout in Hinckley and Bosworth

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news-in-hinckley/local-news/hinckley-news/2013/03/22/paedophile-hunters-on-the-lookout-in-hinckley-and-bosworth-105367-33040464/

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Letzgo Hunting

https://twitter.com/LetzgoHunting

letzgo hunting 
 
https://www.facebook.com/LetzgoHuntingOfficial (21/3/13-)

Jamie Scumm Buster (Scumm Buster) 

https://www.facebook.com/scummatletzgo (9/5/13-)

Psych O Buster 

https://www.facebook.com/psycho.buster

Sean Facee Buster

https://www.facebook.com/facee.buster.3?directed_target_id=0

Carly Keeboo Buster

https://www.facebook.com/keeboo.buster.7?directed_target_id=0

Daemon Hunter

https://www.facebook.com/daemon.hunter.161

Scumm Buster

http://www.facebook.com/Officialscummbuster (9/5/13)

Letzgo Hunting

http://www.facebook.com/letzgo.hunting (23/4/13)

letzgo hunting

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7p3WHcjN24jldhc9f_sMSA

Letzgo Hunting

http://letzgohunting.com

unleavedamazing

http://www.youtube.com/user/unleavedamazing?feature=watch 

d mills

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1u-4Q7_hLhLNsRWcg9J-w?feature=watch

letzgohunting.me.uk

http://letzgohunting.me.uk

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Adrian Goldberg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017f1v6

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Apr 25 2013

Hinckley paedophile [sic] hunter hit by car as he confronts suspect

"A PARENT [?] who runs a paedophile [sic] hunting [!!!???] group says he escaped serious injury when he snared his latest victim after claiming the man hit him with his car as he sped off.

The man, known as Scumm Buster, runs the group called Letzgo Hunting with five other parents.

He says he met up with the man, from the Birmingham area, on Saturday in Hinckley after chatting to him for several weeks posing as a 15-year-old girl.

After the man had been confronted by Scumm Buster he drove off and hit his right leg causing him to have to grab the man’s roof rack to stop him going under his wheels."

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news-in-hinckley/local-news/hinckley-news/2013/04/25/hinckley-paedophile-hunter-hit-by-car-as-he-confronts-suspect-105367-33231599/

Addendum (3/5/13)

http://letzgohunting.com/watch_video.php?v=NWH3YKWSXXUO

http://letzgohunting.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=6971a38c264d514c19987280ef2d551f

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PUBLISHED: 23:23, 28 July 2013 | UPDATED: 08:13, 29 July 2013

The vigilante paedophile [sic] hunters: They claim to be good citizens exposing sex predators by posing as underage girls online. Police say they're recklessly jeopardising official investigations. Who's right?

">Vigilante organisation Letzgo Hunting uses internet to hunt paedophiles
>Group was in headlines recently when they handed dossiers to police
>Arrests came after the group told officers of their contact with ten men
>They also handed over videos of some men meeting 'decoy' girl
>Fears they could name innocent man or jeopardise police investigation"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380523/Vigilante-paedophile-hunters-Good-citizens-exposing-sex-predators-recklessly-jeopardising-official-investigations.html

PUBLISHED: 10:01, 22 April 2013 | UPDATED: 11:23, 23 April 2013 

Leave justice to us, police warn vigilante paedophile [sic] hunters using Facebook to lure suspects before confronting them

">'Letzgo Hunting' members pose as underage girls for chats with predators
>They set up meetings, film suspects and hand evidence to police
>Group releases dramatic footage of members confronting 'suspect'
>Police have warned them to leave justice to them"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312824/Letzgo-Hunting-Facebook-sting-Leave-justice-police-warn-vigilante-paedophile-hunters.html