Showing posts with label Myth. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Myth. Show all posts

Friday, 26 May 2017

Paedophile Hunter [Sic] Myths Destroyed


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25 May 2017

Force says ‘paedophile hunters’ don’t protect ‘real children’



http://www.policeprofessional.com/news.aspx?id=29381

23 May 2017

Kent Police say paedophile hunters should stop


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-4001389225 

April 2017 3:07pm 

'Paedophile hunters' arrested by police as officers begin crackdown on social media vigilantes 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/paedophile-hunters-arrested-police-officers-begin-crackdown

April 24, 2017

Kent Police has arrested two 'paedophile hunters'

http://www.kentlive.news/two-members-of-paedophile-hunting-gang-have-been-arrested/story-30290293-detail/story.html

April 27, 2017

A 'paedophile hunter' has spelled out why he disagrees with Facebook Live 'stings'

http://www.kentlive.news/a-kent-paedophile-hunter-has-spelled-out-why-he-disagrees-with-facebook-live-stings/story-30297851-detail/story.html

19 April 2017 12:58

‘Paedophile hunters’ scrap Facebook Live stings after police warning

http://www.kentlive.news/a-kent-paedophile-hunter-has-spelled-out-why-he-disagrees-with-facebook-live-stings/story-30297851-detail/story.html

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Paedophile Hunters [Sic] And Their Friends - Why They Are Dangerous, Pointless, Time-Wasting, Resource-Wasting, Ignorant, Hater, Fools - The OSC 

http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/paedohunters-sic-and-their-friends-why_16.html

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Stop at nothing








Monday, 15 May 2017

When Survivors Attack (Part 5): It Took You Enough Time To Get It Up

Short-term bump, from 21/8/14, for contemporary issues.

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 Presumably, not the same 'joke' of a CPS, who brought the killer of her child to justice?

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Oh look, no 'hook' ... law ... 


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When Survivors Attack (Part 4): Lies, Lies, Lies - So Many Pants On Fire

http://therealosc.blogspot.ch/2014/06/when-survivors-atack-part-4-lies-lies.html

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Myths propagate ...








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So, with the work we are doing, on the small-minded, dangerous and slow-witted 'Paedo Hunters' [sic], of course, we open up a new pit, of newbie, brainwashed, lying, stupid, idiotic vipers ...

 



 




  



Even if you told them the truth, their small and/or angry brains could not process it  :( ...

... and just as those named below did and still do, in this article, the Sun lies to this very day, right Anthony? ...


https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/860830/sarah-payne-mum-trolled-by-paedo

... and what was the lie, that these people were selling and still do? That anyone, with a no-nexus-relationship, to an alleged action, by looking at an alleged image of the alleged action, has an alleged victim.

There can never be a victim, by looking at an image, in those cases, ever.

When Survivors Attack (Part 4): Lies, Lies, Lies - So Many Pants On Fire

http://therealosc.blogspot.ch/2014/06/when-survivors-atack-part-4-lies-lies.html

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Thursday, 13 October 2016

We Have Voted With Our Computers, You Are Losing, We Are Dying - Decriminalise Possession Now




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13th October 2016

13,000 British paedophiles [sic] request help to stop looking at child sex abuse images [sic] in one year 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/13500-paedophiles-request-help-stop-looking-children-porn-indecent-images-abuse-a7359881.html

12th October 2016

Seven in 10 calls to helpline referred to police and councils, NSPCC reveals 

http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/14798285.Seven_in_10_calls_to_helpline_referred_to_police_and_councils__NSPCC_reveals/

12 October 2016 Last updated at 20:19 BST

Paedophile [sic]: 'I was a car crash waiting to happen' (prepare for dogmatic, but sometimes correct, propaganda)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37638557

Original BBC link, now redirects, to the above...


12th October 2016

Police chief: '100,000 men regularly view obscene [sic] images of children'

http://www.publishedlive.com/2016/10/12/police-chief-100000-men-regularly-view-obscene-images-of-children

1:45PM GMT 05 Dec 2014

Half of paedophiles [sic] 'need medical help' and not jail, says chief constable

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11275577/Half-of-paedophiles-need-medical-help-and-not-jail-says-chief-constable.html

5 Dec, 2014 14:58

Child porn possessors to be medically treated, not punished – UK police overwhelmed

https://www.rt.com/uk/211803-radical-reform-child-abuse

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Simon, you are doing some great work, but, please drop the voodoo victimology.

It is incorrect, it is irrational, it is an unhelpful and dangerous, dogmatic, myth, which helps no one and harms many.

You are much better than that.

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Game Over?

2016

Online child sexual abuse images - working together to tackle the demand for and supply of online child sexual abuse images 

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/services-and-resources/research-and-resources/2016/online-child-sexual-abuse-images

Tuesday, 4 October 2016

On Monsters And Men



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"Sexual Abuse and the Sexual Offender examines the myths perpetuated by the media and widely held by the public, by providing actual data, with case examples, to demonstrate how sexual offending occurs, who commits these acts, what might cause such crimes, how sexual offenders are assessed, supervised and treated, and how to prevent such offending from occurring to the reader or to members of her or his own family.

Of key importance, this book corrects the common assumption that all sexual offenders are depraved predators who are strangers to their victims. In fact, the vast majority of sexual offenses are committed by otherwise seemingly normal men who are well-known, and even well-loved, within their families and communities. Also of crucial importance will be the fact that the vast majority of sexual offenders, once treated, are at very low risk to re-offend. In fact, sexual offenders represent the lowest risk group to re-offend amongst all offenders released from prisons or other institutions. Sections include the separation of offenders into meaningful categories, the actual frequency of sexual offending, its possible origins, the justice system's methods of supervising offenders, the instruments employed to measure risk, and how clinicians actually treat offenders in the therapy process."

July 24, 2016

Sexual Abuse and the Sexual Offender: Common Man or Monster?, by Barry Maletzky



https://karnacology.com/2016/07/24/sexual-abuse-and-the-sexual-offender-common-man-or-monster-by-barry-maletzky

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Dr. Barry M. Maletzky, MD

http://www.sacpdx.com/ohsu-psychiatry-fellowship.html 

A 25-Year Follow-Up of Cognitive/Behavioral Therapy with 7,275 Sexual Offenders 

http://www.atsa.com/sites/default/files/LibraryArticles/Adult%20Recidivism%20Articles/A%2025-Year%20Follow-Up%20of%20Cognitive-Behavioral%20Therapy%20with%207,275%20Sexual%20Offenders.pdf

Treating The Sexual Offender

https://www.hypnosisalliance.com/articles/Treating%20The%20Sexual%20Offender%20-%20Barry%20Maletzky.pdf

Monday, 8 December 2014

UnAbel To Be Objective - The Radicalist Survivor Myths, Disinformation And Lies


The Dangerous Lie ...  

Published: 13:36, Mon, December 8, 2014

As many as 11 million child sex abuse victims in 'national epidemic', expert [sic] warns

"A "NATIONAL epidemic" of child sex abuse in Britain has created as many as 11 million victims, an expert [sic] has warned."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/545004/Child-sex-abuse-11-million-victims-national-epidemic-Government-Theresa-May

Monday 8 December 2014 09.33 GMT

Child sex abuse a national health epidemic, government adviser warns

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/08/child-sex-abuse-national-health-epidemic-11-million-victims

08/12/2014 - 07:02:18

'Potentially about 11.7 million' sex abuse victims in the UK

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/potentially-about-117-million-sex-abuse-victims-in-the-uk-653765.html

Monday 08 December 2014

Sexual Abuse A 'National Health Epidemic'

"Statistics suggest as many as one in six boys under the age of 16, and one in four girls, have been sexually abused."

http://news.sky.com/story/1387613/sexual-abuse-a-national-health-epidemic

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Ian McFadyen @IanMcFadyen1966




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Kristofor Xavier, 2012, minor updates K. Beylant 2014 with permission

Gene G. Abel's Statistical Crimes - a Persistent Blight on the Science of Sexuality

"The Mark of Abel – How psychiatric malpractice has made the non-offending pedophile a hypercriminal."

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Saturday, 15 March 2014

"The Annual Market In Child Pornography On The Internet Is Almost 20 Billion" - Really?

MARCH 12, 2014


In-Depth Report Details Economics of Sex Trade [sic]

"... the market for child pornography in the United States is small because it is generally traded for free."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/us/in-depth-report-details-economics-of-sex-trade.html

http://canadianvalues.ca/ICV/blockchildporn 

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The Myth of Commercial CP - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXewtcRpCpE&list=UU132xhO7pNS72Wl4drUdLdg

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24 March 2014 Last updated at 00:43

Cloud-based archive tool to help catch child abusers

"In well over 90% of our cases there's no money changing hands," he said. "It's the material itself that is highly desirable for offenders. Money does not come into play."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26612059

Wednesday, 22 January 2014

On Feminism, Professional Victims, Vested Interests, Denial, Harm And Sexuality

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Sunday, 22 September 2013

Perplexing? - Not For A Scaremongering Politician

Sep. 22, 2013 6:54 AM

Sex offender registry: Find better way for offenders

"It’s rare to find a progressive trend in our Republican-dominated legislature, but their recent effort (House Bill 301) to downsize Missouri’s “sex offender registry” is laudable, even as Gov. Jay Nixon’s veto is perplexing.

Registering “sex offenders” (far too broadly defined) is based on the questionable idea that they are more likely to offend once released — even though a U.S. Department of Justice study of criminal recidivism rates showed many convicted of sex-related offenses had lower rates of re-arrest compared to other criminals.

We don’t require armed robbers or other felons to register on a public list; rather they serve their sentences and (hopefully) re-integrate into society. And that is the main problem with registering “sex offenders.” Branding all of them for life can only make it more difficult to become normal members of society upon release.

Indeed, being publicly labeled a “sex offender” could conceivably spur some to live up to the heinous title hung forever around their necks.

While a certain percentage of criminals will re-offend, we need to take a hard look at the utility of the “sex offender registry” experiment.

Even though Nixon’s veto of this attempt to downsize the list was not overridden, the legislature, the voters and Nixon should continue to look for better ways of encouraging those who made big mistakes to start a new and better life after prison.

Perpetual, public shaming is not one of them."

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20130922/OPINIONS/309220050/reader-letter-sex-offender-registry?nclick_check=1

Friday, 6 September 2013

Sex Offender Recidivism Is Surprisingly Very Low

September 6, 2013

Shana Rowan: Sex offender laws target wrong people

"While well-intentioned, a focus on previous sex offenses ignores the fact that virtually every perpetrator convicted of a high-profile murder against a child shared something else: a lengthy criminal rap sheet of mostly non-sexual convictions.

No sex offender law — not a mandatory sentence, public registration, or banishment from schools and parks — will prevent sex crimes if they target the wrong people. Treating every offender as a future child rapist and killer is counter-productive.

People who have been offense-free for years, and have families and children of their own, are being forced out of their homes, into fields and under bridges, while those who pose the greatest risk are, as the Sun Sentinel put it, "set free to rape and molest again."

If we as community members cannot find the maturity or courage to have an intelligent conversation about sexual violence, we will have no one to blame but ourselves when your paper runs the same story next year."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/fl-another-viewpoint-offender-laws-20130906,0,6444436.story

September 6, 2013

Other Views: Reform sex-offender registry

"When sex offender registries were created, the World Wide Web was booming. It offered promise as a tool for the public to track criminals who had committed sexual crimes against children. Parents were told how to log on to a state website for registered sexual offenders. There, with the click of a mouse, they could find a map of their community with red arrows indicating where sex offenders lived.

... Extensive research has been conducted on the types of sexual offenders who will repeat their crimes, and the frequency — or more often, infrequency — that it happens.

A study by the state of Michigan showed that an average of just 3.5 percent of registered sex offenders repeat their crimes. The other 96.5 percent do not."

http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/x865772224/Guest-Editorial-Reform-sex-offender-registry

Wednesday, 4 September 2013

Studies and Papers on Residency Laws (USA)

2013

Studies and Articles on Residency Restrictions

"The following links are to research studies and journal articles on the issue of the effectiveness and impacts of sex offender residency laws.

Studies done to date have found that living in close proximity to places where children gather IS NOT A FACTOR IN RECIDIVISM.

As these research articles reveal, residency restrictions often can leave law abiding registrants, and by extension their families, with few, if any, housing opportunities in a community – a steep burden to bear for a policy lacking in any empirical data to justify it.

As with all sex offender sanctions, this policy is rooted in the myth of high recidivism."

http://www.usafair.org/residency_law_studies

Monday, 19 August 2013

Greater Than 30% Of IIOC Viewers Are 'Hands-On Paedos' - How Did This Mythology Arise?



Greater Than 'Mostly' 

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Updated Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:22pm AEST

Survey finds acceptance of child exploitation material

"The research also found child pornography is starting [sic] to appear on sites predominantly used for sharing mainstream movies, music and software.

A Tasmanian study has found one in ten people believe there is nothing wrong with viewing or distributing child exploitation material.

Researchers from the University of Tasmania asked 430 students about their attitudes to child pornography.

One of the researchers, Dr Jeremy Pritchard says about one in ten did not think it was harmful to watch or distribute it.

He says it could be a sign the internet is normalising child exploitation material.

"I think maybe some people just think it's data, that it's an ethically-neutral collection of zeroes and ones," Dr Pritchard said. "That what happened to the child may be criminal, reprehensible, horrible, but they may be thinking what difference does it make if I look at it?" [none, of course]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-18/survey-finds-acceptable-of-child-porn/4894764

Updated Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:00am AEST

Concern the internet is normalising [re-'normalising'] child exploitation

"A world first study has found one in ten people believe it's not harmful to view or distribute child exploitation material."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-17/concern-the-internet-is-normalising-child/4894312


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Dr. Jeremy Prichard, Law School, University of Tasmania, Australia 

‘What’s the problem with viewing child pornography?’ A study of social attitudes with implications for research, law and policy.

http://aic.gov.au/media_library/conferences/2013-accan/tomison_ACCAN_keynote.pdf
  
Viewing Child Exploitation Material: The Disconnect between Social Attitudes, Law and Policy International Society for the Reform of Criminal Law

http://www.cvent.com/events/international-responses-to-social-and-justice-challenges/custom-22-b17f4228f53049efb44568853a39af1f.aspx

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All very interesting, but, what concerns us, today, is this ...

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"Dr Tony Krone from the University of Canberra says the behaviour of viewers and distributors is critical for law enforcement, as they often [sic] progress to becoming perpetrators.

"The research generally shows [really, Tony?] that about 30 percent of people who are found to be viewing material are also active offenders physically with children," Dr Krone said."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-18/survey-finds-acceptable-of-child-porn/4894764


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Dr. Tony Krone, Associate Professor, University of Canberra, ACT, Australia 

Protecting Children in the Digital Age: Online Child Exploitation and International Law Enforcement Responses

http://www.cvent.com/events/international-responses-to-social-and-justice-challenges/custom-22-b17f4228f53049efb44568853a39af1f.aspx

International police operations against online child pornography 

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/tandi/281-300/tandi296/view%20paper.html

A Typology of Online Child Pornography Offending

http://aic.gov.au/documents/4/F/8/%7B4F8B4249-7BEE-4F57-B9ED-993479D9196D%7Dtandi279.pdf

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Oh really Tony? No, "may be", or, "possibly", or, 'thought to be' ... 

Well, we could do an extensive review, for you (oh, we are doing), but, here, we will just recreate this piece, in its entirety (with a few highlights and links) ...

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30/11/2011 

Mike DeWine cites link between viewing child pornography and molestation cases

""At a minimum, 40 percent of those who view child pornography end up molesting children as a result." - Mike DeWine on Friday, November 18th, 2011 in a news conference

There is no category of crimes more revolting to most people than sexual crimes committed against children.

In the wake of the Penn State scandal, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine rolled out a new "Crimes Against Children" initiative on Nov. 18 targeting Internet predators who trade child pornography or actually molest or attempt to molest children.

Flanked by police chiefs and prosecutors, DeWine announced that he was dedicating a new 15-person unit to focus on stopping crimes against children. The unit would be part of the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, which is run by his office. Attempting to demonstrate the prevalence of the crimes in today’s society, DeWine focused on the link between viewers of child pornography and the actual molestation of children.

"At a minimum, 40 percent of those who view child pornography end up molesting children as a result," DeWine said. "At least 40 percent, some estimates as high as 80 percent."

PolitiFact Ohio was struck by the relatively high percentage cited by DeWine and the cause and effect he said exists between viewing child porn and committing physical acts of sexual contact against children. Could four in 10 people who viewed child porn really be committing sexual acts against children?

We turned first to DeWine’s office for some supporting evidence, who quickly e-mailed us a pair of studies said to back up his claim.

The first study, entitled "A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues, is from doctors at the Mayo Clinic.

It states that 30 to 80 percent of arrested individuals who viewed child pornography and 76 percent of individuals who were arrested for Internet child pornography had molested a child, according to studies and case reports. The study quotes from a November 2004 article from the American Prosecutors Research Institute called "From Fantasy to Reality: The Link Between Viewing Child Pornography and Molesting Children" written by Candice Kim. It also apparently references a 2000 study of sex offender inmates in a Federal Bureau of Prisons program.

Kim’s report cites a U.S. Postal Inspection Service finding that 80 percent of purchasers of child pornography are active abusers and nearly 40 percent of the child pornographers investigated over several years have sexually molested children. A footnote indicates the statement is taken from the 2002 testimony Ernie Allen, director of The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, when he appeared before a congressional committee.

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service made 1,807 child porn arrests from January 1997 to March 2004 which netted 620 "confirmed child molesters," the article states. That is a child molestor rate of 34.3 percent, according to the statistic provided by U.S. Postal Inspection Service Agent Ray Smith during a 2004 interview with Kim.

Other statistics found in the report include a Pennsylvania-based law enforcement task force reporting that 51 percent of individuals arrested for pornography-related offense were also determined to be actively molesting children or to have molested in the past. In Dallas, a similar task force put that figure at 31 percent. The original source of those statements was again Allen’s 2002 congressional testimony.

The other study cited by DeWine’s office is a 2005 study funded by a congressional grant to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. In that study of 1,713 people arrested nationwide for child pornography in a one-year period from July 2000 to July 2001, 40 percent were "dual offenders" who sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography with both crimes discovered in the same investigation.

So what are all these studies saying?

They are saying there is a link between those arrested [targeted] by various state and federal law enforcement agencies for child porn possession and acts of molestation of children by this same group of people.

What the do not say, though, is that the link exists for the entire group of people that views child porn and whether those people molest children.

As the 2005 National Center for Missing & Exploited Children report puts it "we do not know if these child porn possessors were representative of all Internet-related child porn possessors."

Furthermore, that report states that there is no known evidence supporting cause and effect -- that simply possessing child pornography encourages or causes child victimization. There has been no study of this issue.

"Knowing a considerable number of dual offenders were discovered during investigations of Internet-related, child-sexual victimization and child porn possession cases does not explain how possessing child pornography is related to child victimization or whether it encourages or causes such victimization," states the report. "We do not have data to determine this."

Later, the report states as to whether the child porn viewing is done before the molesting "we had no information about the sequencing of crimes committed by dual offenders."

Meanwhile, a 2000 study done by psychologists working with prisoners in the Federal Bureau of Prisons sex offender treatment program found that 76 percent of inmates charged with child pornography crimes admitted to having committed contact sex crimes. That study was followed up in 2009 by a similar study which found that 85 percent of 155 convicted sex offenders had committed at least one "hands on sexual offense."

However, a paper prepared by one of the primary authors of both studies, Andres Hernandez, stresses not to apply the statistics of those convicted of child porn possession to the larger "unknown" population of child porn users.

"The number of individuals who are apprehended by law enforcement for committing child porn offenses represents a small proportion of the population of individuals collecting, trading and producing child pornography worldwide," Hernandez writes. "Some individuals have misused the results (of the two studies) to fuel the argument that the majority of child porn offenders are indeed contact sexual offenders and, therefore, dangerous predators. This is simply not supported by the scientific evidence."

Said Hernandez’s paper: "Some individuals in law enforcement are tempted to rely on a biased interpretation of our study...to prove that the majority of child porn offenders are child molestors."

Hernandez’s paper also notes something not reported in this 2009 study — that a 42-person sample of the prisoners were asked questions about when they began possessing child porn compared to when they began committing contact sexual crimes.

"The vast majority of our subjects indicated they committed hands-on abuse prior to seeking child pornography via the Internet," he writes. "The results indicated that in 41 of 42 cases examined hands-on sexual crimes preceded child porn offenses."

So where are we left as we bid this abhorrent subject goodbye?

At a news conference promoting a crackdown on sexual crimes against children, DeWine made statements stating that "at a minimum 40 percent of those who view child pornography end up molesting children as a result."

Molestation crimes are horrific. And while DeWine’s statement is overly broad, it does contain an element of truth: that people who commit acts of child molestation also often view child pornography.

His statements are based on studies which are all of those arrested for child porn offenses and range from a 31 percent child molester rate up to 85 percent, depending on the study.

However, several of the authors of those studies caution that the numbers should not be generalized to the bigger universe of all people who have viewed child porn -- those who have been arrested and those who have not. And that’s exactly what DeWine did.

And researchers caution that there is no evidence that the molesting of children by those possessing child porn takes place as a result of viewing the child porn, a claim made by DeWine. Quite to the contrary, study of this cause-effect relationship we found suggests that nearly all offenders committed acts of molestation prior to looking at child porn.

Those are critical facts that would give a different impression of DeWine’s claim.

On the Truth-O-Meter, his claim rates Mostly False."

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/nov/30/mike-dewine/mike-dewine-cites-link-between-viewing-child-porno/

Truth-O-Meter scrutinizes claims on U.S. spending, corporate taxes, Ohio politics: PolitiFact Ohio's weekly recap

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/12/us_spending_corporate_taxes_oh.html

Attorney General Mark DeWine: Smart enough to know his kiddie-porn stats are false; his motive is political 

http://blog.cleveland.com/letters/2011/12/attorney_general_mark_dewine_s.html 

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Even the sloppy Mayo piece, states the following ...

"Studies and case reports indicate that 30% ['The Krone Constant'] to 80% of individuals who viewed child pornography and 76% of individuals who were arrested for Internet child pornography had molested a child. [of course, it is pretty obvious, to the learned, why these figures may have arisen, in those days - the clue is in the piece, above]

It is difficult to know how many people progress from computerized pedophilia [sic] to physical acts against children and how many would have progressed to physical acts without the computer being involved. It is interesting that the NIBRS data from 2000 show that most child pornography crimes reported did not involve a computer or the Internet but were related to photographs, magazines, and videos."

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2811%2961074-4/fulltext

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So, Tony, Almost Totally False, is the best we can say about your claim - you should be ashamed.

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OH - Mike DeWine cites link between viewing child pornography and molestation cases

http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/oh-mike-dewine-cites-link-between.html#.UhGS_H-RA1I

Mike DeWine cites link between viewing child pornography and molestation cases (Does he???)

http://congress-courts-legislation.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/mike-dewine-cites-link-between-viewing.html

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Other vested interests, continue to sell similar 'facts'  (it turns out, that 'McKenna, 2011' is a chat with her C'P'I buddy, Pat McKenna) ...

September 2013



It appears, that Ms van Turnhout, suffers from Eikonophobia.

Again, we see it, here ... also, she is not afraid, to throw in a few weasel words/lies (lines 2 and 3) ...


http://www.jillianvanturnhout.ie/?p=1025

https://twitter.com/JillianvT

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