Wednesday, 5 March 2014

Regarding Ms Joanne Mjadzelics

Published: March 5, 2014 13:02 PM

Lostprophets Ian Watkins's Lover Joanne Mjadzelics Facing Child Sex Charges [sic]

"Suzanne Thomas, senior crown prosecutor for the Crown Prosecution Service Wales, said: "As part of a wider police investigation, the Crown Prosecution Service was asked by South Wales Police to review evidence files relating to alleged offences committed by Joanne Mjadzelics.

"I have reviewed this evidence and concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest to charge Joanne Mjadzelics.

"May I remind all concerned that Joanne Mjadzelics has a right to a fair trial. It is very important that there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings. For these reasons, it would be inappropriate for me to comment further.""

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lostprophets-ian-watkinss-lover-joanne-mjadzelics-facing-child-sex-charges-1438994

05/03/2014

Operation Globe: Woman charged with indecent images offences

"Charges

Joanne Mjadzelics has been charged with:

>Four counts of possession of an indecent image of a child (level 4), contrary to Section 160 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (offences dated between 7 May 2011 and 16 May 2011)

>Two counts of distributing an indecent image of a child (level 1), contrary to Section 1 (1)(b) of the Protection of Children Act 1978 (offences dated 30 September 2011)

>One count of encouraging or assisting the commission of an offence of distributing and indecent image of a child, contrary to Section 45 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (offence dated between 9 May 2011 and 17 May 2011)"

http://www.thegovernmentsays.com/cache/1193168.html

5 March 2014 Last updated at 14:25

Joanne Mjadzelics charged over indecent images in Ian Watkins inquiry

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-26450203

1:13PM GMT 05 Mar 2014

Woman charged with possessing indecent images of children in relation to Ian Watkins Lost Prophets case

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10678210/Woman-charged-with-possessing-indecent-images-of-children-in-relation-to-Ian-Watkins-Lost-Prophets-case.html

Last updated Wed 5 Mar 2014

'In public interest to charge Joanne Mjadzelics'

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-03-05/in-public-interest-to-charge-joanne-mjadzelics

5 Mar 2014 12:27

Ian Watkins inquiry: Joanne Mjadzelics charged with possessing and distributing indecent images of children

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ian-watkins-inquiry-joanne-mjadzelics-6774906

PUBLISHED: 15:16, 5 March 2014 | UPDATED: 17:18, 5 March 2014

Ex-girlfriend of paedophile [sic] Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins charged with possessing indecent images of children

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573854/Ex-girlfriend-paedophile-Lostprophets-singer-Ian-Watkins-charged-possessing-indecent-images-children.html

Posted: 05/03/2014 15:05 GMT | Updated: 05/03/2014 16:59 GMT

Lostprophets Singer Ian Watkins Inquiry: Joanne Mjadzelics Charged Over Indecent Images

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/05/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-investigation-joanne-mjadzelics-charged-indecent-images_n_4903793.html

Today at 12:37:23 pm

Jo's been charged.....

http://ianwatkinscourttrial.createaforum.com/general-discussion/jo%27s-been-charged

45 minutes ago

Miss M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2DvfC0XtH8

05-03-2014, 05:08 PM

Police and CPS to get Revenge on Joanne Mjadzelics

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270005

10:39am, Fri 21 Mar 2014

Joanne Mjadzelics pleads not guilty over indecent image charges

http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2014-03-21/joanne-mjadzelics-pleads-not-guilty-over-indecent-image-charges

Friday 21 March 2014 13.30 GMT

Ian Watkins' former girlfriend denies sexual offences

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/21/ian-watkins-lostprophets-former-girlfriend-denies-charges

Mar 21, 2014 21:17

Ian Watkins' former girlfriend denies distributing child pornography and asking Lostprophets star for indecent images

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-former-girlfriend-denies-3269743 

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Comment:

It would be very easy to be nasty (and there are things we have not reported) - but, that is not what we do.

Indeed, consistent with our mission statement, we bear no grudges and we offer support, to anyone, wherever they are in the sorry process.

The OSC 

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July 11, 2014

Ex-girlfriend of paedophile [sic] Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins has 'legitimate reasons' for having indecent images of children - court hears

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Ex-girlfriend-paedophile-Lostprophets-singer-Ian/story-21451909-detail/story.html

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Comment:

Friday, January 23rd, 2015

The OSC is pleased, with the court outcome, in the case of R v Mjadzelics. 

We expect a book, or equivalent, will be forthcoming. 

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Joanne Mjadzelics @JoMjadzelics https://twitter.com/JoMjadzelics/with_replies

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVYqY-disuaKA29wfYtLbaw

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14 January 2015 Last updated at 20:20

Joanne Mjadzelics: Ian Watkins' ex cleared over abuse images

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-30820349

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-wales-30811299

Falsely Accused Of Being A Paedophile [sic] | This Morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phD69RkhCeQ

Ian Watkins ex Joanne Mjadzelics Hallam fm News interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLK1Qlv01ZI

56 minutes ago 4:15 pm 23/1/15

Joanne Mjadzelics: My life has been completely destroyed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-30942686

In saying that, it is with great concern, we see it is now, apparently, legal ("legitimate reason"), for a subject of The Crown, to entrap .... 'Used Indecent Images To Trap ...', without consequence; a truly worrying development, for everyone.

The OSC 

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Published on the 24 January 2015

Doncaster woman cleared of child porn charges changes name

"A woman cleared of child porn charges in a case involving a pop star has changed her name.

Joanne Mjadzelics, of Thorne Road, Doncaster, has now swapped her name by deed poll after being cleared by Cardiff Crown Court last month.

The former girlfriend of paedophile rocker Ian Watkins, singer of the Lostprophets, revealed she had made the change in a radio interview.

She said: “It has completely destroyed me because I have not been able to work.”

Ms Mjadzelics said the charges meant people were not interested in giving her a job.

And she faced major expense paying for her accommodation while she was on trial which meant she was now struggling financially.

Now the former escort says she hopes to get involved with helping prostitutes get off the streets and turn their lives around.

She said: “There is nothing in Doncaster. I want to see if there’s a way to get them off drugs and off the streets.”"

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/doncaster-woman-cleared-of-child-porn-charges-changes-name-1-7069446

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/woman-cleared-in-lostprophets-child-porn-case-changes-name-1-7068255

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Tuesday, 4 March 2014

Now Indecent Images of Children Win Prizes - But, Only If They Have Been Harmed

PUBLISHED: 18:54, 4 March 2014 | UPDATED: 20:15, 4 March 2014

Haunting image of Syrian girl, 11, being treated for shrapnel wounds after being hit by bomb while playing outside her home wins Unicef’s photo of the year 

">Swedish photographer met Dania Kilsi at an Aleppo clinic in 2012,
>She was hurt by a bomb which exploded while she was playing outside,
>Despite being bloodied, she was not badly hurt and soon released."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573167/Haunting-image-Syrian-girl-11-treated-shrapnel-wounds-hit-bomb-playing-outside-home-wins-Unicefs-photo-year.html

Sunday, 2 March 2014

Kiss Us At The Paedogate

Sunday, 2 March, 2014

Paedogate puts the past in the pillory


"You know when a scandal has made it to the news big league when it gets the “gate” tag, like Watergate. Well, the last ten days or so in the UK have given us Paedogate, in which the rabid right wing Daily Mail launched a sustained campaign to expose left wing support for the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) when I was its Chair back in the 1970s.

The aim was clearly to embarrass and undermine three leading figures in the Labour party. It worked. Initially dismissed as old hat because the story had been around for years as vague internet gossip, the Mail’s detailed trawl through publicly accessible archives and their own newspaper cuttings library paid off. At last, the rest of the national media finally sat up and paid attention in a big way. The Labour trio who were under fire, thanks to their work for the National Council of Civil Liberties (NCCL), to which PIE was affiliated, were forced to respond publicly. Harriet Harman, now Deputy Leader of the Labour party, angrily denounced the Mail. She had been an NCCL legal officer. Patricia Hewitt, a former cabinet minister in Tony Blair’s government, had a tougher hand to play because she had been NCCL’s General Secretary and had been closely associated with the organisation’s own very radical policy on the age of consent. She was forced into an apology in which she disowned this policy and also wrote ..."

http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/paedogate-puts-the-past-in-the-pillory

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Paedophilia - The Radical Case

"Chapter 11: The Beginnings of Radical Paedophilia in Britain"

http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/chap11.htm

Yes, We Do Have 'Child Porn', Here, Too

Wooooshhhhh.

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Sexual Offences Act 2003 

"2003 c. 42; Part 1; Abuse of children through prostitution and pornography

48 Causing or inciting child prostitution or pornography

49 Controlling a child prostitute or a child involved in pornography

50 Arranging or facilitating child prostitution or pornography

51 Sections 48 to 50: interpretation

[(1) For the purposes of sections 48 to 50, a person is involved in pornography if an indecent image of that person is recorded; and similar expressions, and “pornography”, are to be interpreted accordingly."

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-children-through-prostitution-and-pornography

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... and, all the while, in the background, the devious and lying zealots, the dysfunctional and worse, plot and plan ...
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On the primary issue ...

3 March 2014 Last updated at 00:56

Labour calls for tougher action against cyber crime

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26411083

One word

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Wednesday, 5 March 2014

AVP and Legislation.

"A bit of an uphill struggle getting the UK Media and others to understand AVP - especially when it appears in UK Legislation. Here is my interpretation of what it shows now, and what it should show in "Richard's world".

I won't bore you with the reasoning's behind this - earlier posts from 2013 will explain this & you will probably have read these already."

http://jerseyric.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/avp-and-legislation.html

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2 April 2014 Last updated at 02:57

Child-grooming loophole must be closed, says charity

"Among its recommendations, it called for the phrase "child prostitution" to be removed from all legislation."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26841181

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2014 

The use of tactical polygraph with sex offenders 


http://www.childabuseactionnetwork.com/Download-document/9-Tactical-Polygraph.html

Saturday, 1 March 2014

Who, Exactly, Is Mark Watts And ExaroNews, And What Problem Do They Have, With Those With Mental Health Issues?

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The Times, 18th January 1975

Albany Trust  http://www.albanytrust.org

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1 March 2014

Revealed: Whitehall Official Who Blocked Objections To Fund PIE

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5201/revealed-whitehall-official-who-blocked-objections-to-fund-pie

Mar 01, 2014 21:07

Huge sums of TAXPAYER'S cash 'handed to vile child-sex pervert group' by Home Office officials

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-information-exchange-taxpayers-cash-3197625

March 1, 2014

‘A friend of Britten’s’ in UK paedophile investigation 

http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2014/03/a-friend-of-brittens-in-uk-paedophile-investigation.html

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Albany Trust 

http://www.albanytrust.org

Lucy Faithfull Foundation

http://lucyfaithfull.org

Stop it Now!

http://www.stopitnow.org.uk

Circles uk

http://www.circles-uk.org.uk

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Mark Watts

Mark Watts @MarkWatts_1 https://twitter.com/MarkWatts_1

http://www.exaronews.com/author/mark-watts

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4628/guardian-exaro-editor-in-chief-on-a-mission-to-reverse-an-uncertain-digital-future

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Watts_%28journalist%29

http://www.societyofeditors.co.uk/page-view.php?pagename=Mark-Watts

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/sep/30/mark-watts-exaro

Mark Watts @MarkWatts_1 https://twitter.com/MarkWatts_1

http://journalisted.com/mark-watts-1?allarticles=yes 

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Bullshit Alert ...
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March 1, 2014

Revealed: The civil servant in the Home Office’s PIE funding inquiry and his academic articles on boy love

http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/revealed-the-civil-servant-in-the-home-offices-pie-funding-inquiry-and-his-academic-articles-on-boy-love

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Published: Sun, March 2, 2014 

Paedophile MPs [!] are mocking British law

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/462601/Paedophile-MPs-are-mocking-British-law

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Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton https://twitter.com/SoniaPoulton

https://www.facebook.com/sonia.poulton

http://soniapoulton.co.uk

http://soniapoulton.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Poulton

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s&authornamef=Sonia+Poulton

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March 2014

Albany Trust - Press release

"Albany Trust has never supported the organisation known as P.I.E. financially, nor in support of its misguided ideology. Nor has Albany Trust ever associated itself in any way with P.I.E. in the past. For the sake of clarity, Albany Trust wishes to make it clear it entirely dissociates itself from any organisation promoting the sexual abuse of children. The issues that have been raised by the recent media coverage of links between P.I.E. and N.C.C.L. (now Liberty) are historic. Questions have been asked relating to the 1970s and whether Albany Trust also had links to P.I.E. These matters were dealt with in Parliament at the time by the government, and extensively in the public domain by Antony Grey (then Director of Albany Trust) in his book Quest for Justice (Sinclair-Stevenson, 1992.

The Minister speaking for the government of the day, stated in Parliament: "I am satisfied that no public money is being used (by Albany Trust) for any propaganda purposes on behalf of such an organisation [P.I.E.] (Hansard - HC Deb 15 December 1977 vol 941 cc 900-1).

The account given by Antony Grey makes it clear that the source of these questions were false allegations made by Mrs Mary Whitehouse. These were based on misinformation that had alarmed her about the purpose of funding provided by the government to Albany Trust. Although Mrs Whitehouse acknowledged Albany's letter to her correcting the facts by publishing it in her book, Whatever Happened to Sex? (Wayland, 1977), she never publicly apologised for her error. Albany's counselling services continue to provide much-needed support for individuals from all backgrounds, across the spectrum of sexuality. The Trust adheres to a professional code of ethics and practice of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy."

http://www.albanytrust.org/press-release

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Thursday, May 1, 2014

Born That Way?

"Pedophilia: the word alone conjures up the most unspeakable crimes. But what is it: a psychiatric disorder that can be treated? Some new research indicates it may actually be innate and unchangeable -- an orientation. We speak with ex-offenders and doctors on both sides of the debate. This episode was researched and prepared by documentary filmmaker Andrew Munger."

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2014/05/01/born-that-way

So Correct (Almost Totally, In Fact), We Will Reproduce It All

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If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, 
we don't believe in it at all.”
 Noam Chomsky
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26 February 2014

The NCCL was right to affiliate with PIE

"If civil liberties groups won't defend free speech for the unpopular, what's the point of them?

To see the parlous state of moral and political debate in twenty-first-century Britain, look no further than the Harriet Harman / PIE scandal.

Here, in this resuscitation of old claims and smears about the relationship between the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL) and the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), we had an opportunity for a serious debate about freedom of speech and association, about whether even the most unpopular groups in society - and what could be more unpopular than an organisation of self-defined paedophiles? - should have the right to exist and to give voice to their ideology.

But instead, we’ve ended up with yet another shrill clash of competing paedo smears, with the Daily Mail suggesting that Harman (who was legal officer of the NCCL from 1978 to 1982) was a friend of perverts, and Harman’s backers in the press countering that actually it’s the Daily Mail that ‘sexualises children’. All matters of principle in the old NCCL / PIE relationship have been brutally elbowed aside by every side in this smear-fest disguised as a debate, where the national sport of ‘Hunt the paedo’ has trumped measured discussion of rights, freedom, and unpopular causes.

You’d never know it from the media frenzy, but there are some important principles at stake in this flashback to the old ties between the NCCL and PIE - primarily the principle that even the most unpopular people in a society should be free to associate with each other and to propagate their ideas and advocate for legal change. No, not free to abuse children or plan to abuse children, as some individual PIE members were arrested for doing, but free to express an outlook, however warped that outlook might appear to the rest of society.

The truth is that the NCCL was right both to have PIE as an affiliate and to defend its members against charges of ‘corrupting public morals’. Why? Because a key role of any civil liberties group worth its name is to defend the rights of association of the most loathed sections of society, to ensure that even the profoundly unpopular enjoy the same liberties, most importantly freedom of speech, as the respectable and the right-on.

For all its faults, the NCCL of the 1970s and early 1980s was a pretty good civil liberties organisation, certainly in comparison with the aloof, lawyerly outfit it has become in recent years under its new name of Liberty. Indeed, its willingness to have PIE as an affiliate, and to defend its members against the ‘crimes’ of publishing a non-pornographic magazine and posting private letters to each other containing sexual fantasies, shows just how serious it was about civil liberties, and that it possessed that key belief that should motor all defenders of freedom - that the freedoms of speech and association are universal and must extend even to those we hate or simply do not understand.

Reading the smearing articles about Harman - and also Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey, two other Labour bigwigs who were leaders of the NCCL when it had PIE as an affiliate between 1975 and 1983 - you could be forgiven for thinking that the NCCL had helped to facilitate actual acts of paedophila. It didn’t, of course. What it did was protect the freedom of individuals to promote the idea of paedophila and to define themselves as an association of paedophiles. And anyone who truly believes in freedom of thought and speech must, as an absolute bottom line, appreciate the fundamental moral difference between acts and ideas. Acting on paedophilic thoughts is a crime, as some PIE members discovered; having and voicing paedophilic thoughts is not, or at least shouldn’t be. There is a profound difference between breaking the law against child sex and campaigning for a change in the law on the age of consent, however perverse the reasoning for that campaign might seem. It is to the NCCL’s credit that it recognised this.

The NCCL’s involvement with PIE consisted primarily of defending its right to propagate its ideas and to exist as an organisation. It did not fight for the ‘right’ of PIE members to rape children, but rather defended PIE’s right to lobby, to publish a magazine with paedophilic ideas, to advocate for the abolition of the age of consent, and to post private letters to one another describing fantasies. Incredibly, some PIE members were actually arrested for doing that, for ‘sending obscene material by mail’ by writing personal letters to one another that were not publicly disseminated. If you do not recognise that as a pretty tyrannical assault on freedom of thought, then you need to go back to school and retake Liberty 101. The NCCL’s defence of PIE’s right to exist and its right to share ideas and information was correct and admirable.

If civil liberties organisations won’t defend the freedoms of speech and association of unpopular groups, then what is the point of them? Respectable groups don’t find their freedoms curtailed. The Women’s Institute is not prevented from publishing its ideas; Labour Party members aren’t arrested for what they write in private letters. It is only the moral outliers of a society who have their right to propagate their beliefs hammered by the authorities, whether it’s gay pornographers, the hard left, Nazis or self-confessed paedophiles. It is the freedom of speech of these deeply unpopular causes that true civil libertarians must defend, firstly because we recognise that freedom of speech means nothing unless it extends to everyone; and secondly because if we allow the state to define a certain outlook as so foul that it ‘corrupts public morals’ and thus must be extinguished, then we set a very dangerous precedent that might one day reach to us and call into question the acceptability of the views we hold, too.

In the US, where there is a far healthier attitude to freedom of speech, civil libertarians have for a long time asserted that it is entirely possible to defend a group’s right to exist, speak and publish (not to abuse, I reiterate) while simultaneously finding what that group says to be outrageous and grotesque. So the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has defended the right of American Nazis to hold a march in a predominantly Jewish town - not because it likes Nazis (some of the ACLU’s leading figures are Jews whose forefathers were obliterated in the Holocaust) but because it recognises that a serious commitment to political freedom means defending it even for the ‘enemies of freedom’.

Indeed, the ACLU has also defended the speech and association rights of paedophilic groups. In a court case in the early 2000s, it represented the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in a civil suit in which the association was being sued by the parents of a 10-year-old boy who was raped and murdered by two paedophiles. The parents claimed NAMBLA’s (non-pornographic) website fuelled the outlook of the two paedophiles. The ACLU argued that there was no evidence to back this up and defended the right of NAMBLA to continue publishing its ideas and campaigning for the abolition of the age of consent.

Why did the ACLU do this? Not because it is pro-paedophile, of course, but because it is pro-freedom of thought – consistently and seriously. It recognised how extremely unpopular NAMBLA is; in her book Free for All: Defending Liberty in America Today, Wendy Kaminer, a leading member of the ACLU at the time of the NAMBLA case, and today a contributor to spiked, said ‘virtually no group of people is more unpopular’ than paedophiles and revealed that ‘the ACLU [was] excoriated by many and lost considerable support’ over its decision to defend NAMBLA. But it was the right thing to do, she wrote, because a ‘simple appreciation of freedom of thought and expression’ should make it clear that we must have freedom even for ‘offensive, unpopular speech’.

‘The notion that pubescent or prepubescent children may enter into consensual, mutually beneficial sexual relationships with adults seems deeply flawed to me, but so do a lot of ideas I don’t share’, wrote Kaminer. If libertarians ‘only protected sensible speech, we’d inhabit a very quiet nation indeed’, she said. That, right there, is a principled commitment to freedom of thought and expression, where it is recognised that even ideas we find flawed or foul should not be censored, and the groups who espouse them should not be broken up. The NCCL once took a similar Voltairean approach to freedom of speech and organisation, and it is now lambasted for doing so.

There have been two responses to the return of the NCCL / PIE scandal: the illiberal side says the NCCL was disgusting and crazy; the other, pro-Harman side is little better, saying, ‘Look, the Seventies were weird and sexual liberation went too far, so you can’t blame the NCCL for stupidly having PIE as an affiliate’. Both sides avoid the question of principle, the question of whether - regardless of PIE’s perverted ideas and massive unpopularity - it was right for civil libertarians to defend its right to exist and to speak and organise. The fundamental thing that was different in the Seventies was less the out-of-control sexual liberation stuff than the fact that civil liberties groups genuinely believed in civil liberty. It is the ditching of that core commitment to freedom in recent years, not least by Liberty itself, which means so many can now look back in horror at the fact that libertarians defended the right even of paedophiles to publish words and arguments. The coming back to life of the NCCL / PIE scandal really confirms how alarmingly illiberal, how disconnected from true freedom of thought and Voltairean ideals, modern Britain has become.

It’s easy to have a pop at Harriet Harman, even easier to mock the Daily Mail for being hypocritical. But that’s enough easy posturing. Let’s now ask some hard questions. Do you support the right of paedophiles to set up an organisation (no, not a child sex ring, but a campaigning organisation)? Do you support the right of paedophiles to publish their ideas and their written fantasies? Do you support the right of paedophiles to campaign for a reduction in the age of consent? Do you support these rights even though you find the content of the material being published and the arguments for a lower age of consent to be deeply immoral and perverse? I answer yes to those questions. How about you?

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-nccl-was-right-to-affiliate-with-pie/14718  

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10 March 2014

In defence of the dark Seventies

"E is for ENLIGHTENMENT.

They might have had some trouble keeping the lights on in the 1970s, but in other ways the ‘dark decade’ looks quite enlightened. Of course, in much of Seventies Britain racism was not so much acceptable as obligatory. But building on the gains of the 1960s, big strides were made in the struggle for female emancipation and gay liberation, and for rights and freedom of expression more widely. It was in this pro-freedom atmosphere that, as Brendan O’Neill has argued on spiked, it would have been weird if a civil-liberties group such as the NCCL had not defended free speech for the odious Paedophile Information Exchange (which is in no way the same thing as defending child-sexual abuse).

The Seventies brought the last set-piece showdowns between the old moral pillars of the British Establishment and the new wave unleashed in the Sixties. The two most notorious of these were the 1971 obscenity trial of the editors of the alternative publication, Oz – which involved the spectacle of the children’s cartoon character, Rupert Bear, standing trial after Oz pictured him having sex with a naked granny – and the 1977 private prosecution for blasphemy brought by Mary Whitehouse against Gay News, over a poem in which a Roman centurion fantasised about having sex with the crucified Jesus Christ. Both trials initially went the way of the prosecution – the Oz editors were jailed, the Gay News editor given a suspended prison sentence – but in the longer run, the public response to the harsh sentences served only further to discredit the old censorious laws.

The irony is that while these battles for freedom of expression were being won, in the student unions the new strand of politically correct No-Platform censorship was growing. Twenty years later, those student union prigs were running the country."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/in-defence-of-the-dark-seventies/14764#.UybxVc5vAQd

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2 April 2014

‘Everything should be open to question’

"‘You want to set up social institutions that accept that everything is open to question. Individuals don’t have to be open to doubt, but the system always should. It should always be checking and looking for mistakes. That’s institutionalised doubt, and it’s what liberal society fundamentally does. It looks for mistakes. It’s a constant, 24-hour, worldwide hunt for error. And all it asks of people is not that they be individually doubtful or squishy or moderate; all it asks is that they acknowledge the legitimacy of a social system that is based on doubt.’

Or, as the motto chosen by the Royal Society of London in 1660 put it, ‘Nullius in Verba’ (On the word of no one).

This is why the right not to be offended is so dangerous; it threatens the process by which we, as a society, develop knowledge. As The Kindly Inquisitors puts it: ‘The truth is that liberal science [Rauch’s term for knowledge production] demands discipline as well as licence, and to those who reject or flout its rules, it can be cruel. It excludes and restricts as well as tolerates… It does not give a damn about your feelings and happily tramples them in the name of finding truth… Self-esteem, sensitivity, respect for others’ beliefs, renunciation of prejudice are all good as far as they go. But as primary social goals, they are incompatible with the peaceful and productive advancement of human knowledge. To advance knowledge, we must all sometimes suffer. Worse than that, we must inflict suffering on others.’"

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