Liberty? ... don't make us laugh
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@LibertyHQ You see, it is confirmed, that Liberty have totally forgotten what Liberty means - http://t.co/AnLAn25nJJ
— The OSC (@OSCP5) April 11, 2014
READ THIS No excuse, excuses this: Paedophile's images of abuse victim cannot be deleted, say police #StandUp4Victims
http://t.co/YVgopu84wV
— Jim Gamble (@JimGamble_INEQE) April 11, 2014
@2586k9 @EveThomas40 @TearsBehindTheS treat the computer like a car in a drugs case, forfeiture & apply for a destruction order
— Jim Gamble (@JimGamble_INEQE) April 11, 2014
Just 2b clear I am from the police of the police & respect & admire them but IMO @dorsetpolice shld not do this http://t.co/YVgopu84wV
— Jim Gamble (@JimGamble_INEQE) April 11, 2014
@PCCDorset @EveThomas40 @NSPCC @barnardos if those images in swim wear or leotard were in an image in his pocket outside the victims home???
— Jim Gamble (@JimGamble_INEQE) April 11, 2014
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11 April 2014 Last updated at 12:05
Paedophile's [sic] images of abuse victim cannot be deleted, police say
The paedophile's [sic] laptop contains images of the girl he abused
Dorset Police officers have said it would be "unlawful" to delete photos of an abuse victim from a paedophile's [sic] laptop.
The man, a family member, was jailed in 2013 for nine years after admitting a string of sex offences, including assaulting a child under the age of 13.
He has now formally requested a laptop and a mobile telephone are handed back.
Liberty, which represents the victim's family, said photos of the girl in swimwear and leotards were on the PC.
"It would be unlawful for police officers to alter the computer and phone's memories by removing the disputed photographs before returning them”
Dorset Police
Dorset Police said they could not delete the family pictures as they were not legally classified as indecent or prohibited.
As a result, the sex offender, who is in his 50s but cannot be named to protect the identity of his victim, will have access to photos of the girl and her family when he is eventually released from jail.
The victim's mother said the family had been "traumatised" by the abuse.
"I am appalled that the man who abused my child can ask the police to hand over our family photos for him to keep for the rest of his life.
"My daughters struggle every day with the devastating consequences of his abuse and this will only make them feel more humiliated and degraded.
"Why should we continue to be traumatised further?"
'Violation of dignity' [sic]
Liberty argued that the return of the computer and mobile would breach articles three and eight of the European Convention on Human Rights, which protect against inhuman treatment and invasion of privacy, respectively.
In a letter to Dorset Police, Liberty said the prospect of having the photos returned to the abuser was "causing the girls a significant amount of distress" and would be "an enormous violation of their dignity and personal integrity".
The abuse has caused the victim to suffer "enormous psychological harm" and she eats very little, self-harms frequently and is at risk of suicide, Liberty said.
Rosie Brighouse, legal officer at the organisation, said: "We urge the police to protect these victims' dignity.
"It's surely common sense that these vulnerable girls aren't degraded further?"
'Fundamental error'
In a reply, Dorset Police said "present options" were limited as the legislation used to seize the phone and computer required officers to return the property.
The force added: "Furthermore it would be unlawful for police officers to alter the computer and phone's memories by removing the disputed photographs before returning them."
The county's Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC), Martin Underhill, said it was not the fault of the police and has set up an e-petition to lobby to change the "fundamental error" in the law.[ah, a loophole, again]
He said: "How can we protect victims of sexual abuse if current legislation allows perpetrators to keep images of them?
"Think of the trauma this causes to the victims. And think of the control and power this gives the abuser.""
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-26979187
Anger over paedophile [sic] laptop move
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/national/anger-over-paedophile-laptop-move-1-6555028
Outrage as paedo [sic] to be given back laptop containing images of girl he abused
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/373903/Paedophile-to-be-given-back-laptop-containing-images-of-girl-he-abused
Outrage as paedophile [sic] set to have photos of stepdaughter victim returned to him - and there's nothing the law can do
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11141667.Outrage_as_paedophile_set_to_have_photos_of_stepdaughter_victim_returned_to_him___and_there_s_nothing_the_law_can_do/
Police set to return child images to paedophile [sic]
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-04-11/police-set-to-return-images-of-children-to-paedophile
Sex offenders 'must not be allowed to be given sick images back', says Dorset police chief Martyn Underhill
http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Petition-stop-sex-offenders-keeping-images/story-20947183-detail/story.html
Attorney General to investigate case of paedophile [sic] who wants pictures of victim returned
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11144636.Attorney_General_to_investigate_case_of_paedophile_who_wants_pictures_of_victim_returned/?ref=twt
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Martyn Underhill @Tosh599 https://twitter.com/Tosh599
PCCDorset Verified account @PCCDorset https://twitter.com/PCCDorset
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyn_Underhill
http://www.keeppoliticsoutofpolicing.co.uk
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10054468.Concerns_after_Dorset_police_commisioner_poll
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-20639034
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Stop sex offenders retaining photo's of their victims
11/04/2015 09:35
"Responsible department: Ministry of Justice
I have come across a case which highlights how victims of sexual abuse are being let down. This case involves a man convicted for sexual abuse. When he was arrested, his laptop was seized by the Police. Now the man is convicted, the case is over, the man is asking for his laptop back.
The laptop contains images of his victims which were not deemed indecent.
The law states that the police have to return the equipment in its original condition.
This is a Dorset case. Question? Should an abuser, be allowed to retain images of his victims? Think of the trauma this causes to the victims? And think of the control and power this gives the abuser? This is not the fault of the police. The legislation is wrong. It is double jeopardy for victim’s photos to be viewed by their abuser – it opens old wounds. Victims need better protection, Government should legislate to stop all victim images being retained by sex offenders."
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/63590
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@EveThomas40 @NSPCC @barnardos Eve, they are not illegal images, they are still images of victims though..
— PCCDorset (@PCCDorset) April 11, 2014
@PCCDorset @EveThomas40 @NSPCC @barnardos In fact, they are photos of the child of a loving father.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) April 11, 2014
@PCCDorset @EveThomas40 @NSPCC @barnardos Your vote-mongering is sickening.
— The OSC (@OSCP5) April 11, 2014
@PCCDorset @EveThomas40 @NSPCC @barnardos That is the problem, with having ex-plod, with no mandate, as PCC
— The OSC (@OSCP5) April 11, 2014
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A father cannot own legal photos of his child?
Little wonder, that they will not reply to our communications.
We may correct, all the glaring falsehoods and lies, later.
The OSC
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— Liberty (@libertyhq) August 18, 2014
@libertyhq Think not - http://t.co/EKFXI6fGku the quicker you close down, and we get a UKCLU, the better.
— The OSC (@OSCP__1) August 18, 2014
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