*****
(A) The, still, unproven proposition, which we will accept, for now,
Awareness (A1) = Harm 1 (H1),
thus,
Awareness (A1) + Awareness (A2) = Harm 2 (H2),
let A2 = 0, particularly, where Awareness is impossible,
Additional Harm (Hadd) = H2 - H1 = 0,
hence, in the absence of awareness, no harm occurs.*
(B) Now,
Viewer 1 (V1) = Harm 1 (H1) = Additional Harm (Hadd) = 0, as shown above,
Viewer 1 (V1) + Viewer 2 (V2) = Harm 2 (H2),
when no nexus is present, H2 = 0,
hence, there is no harm, from viewing material provided by another viewer, when no nexus to the alleged act, is present.*
QED
*except those real harms, created by insane laws.
*****
Sexual Offences Guideline Consultation
Section six: Indecent images of children
https://consult.justice.gov.uk/sentencing-council/indecent-images-children/supporting_documents/sexual%20offences_Indecent%20images%20of%20children.pdf
Response to “A Reluctant Rebellion”
Alexandra Gelber, Assistant Deputy Chief, Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, Criminal Division, United States Department of Justice, July 1, 2009.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-ceos/legacy/2012/03/19/ReluctantRebellionResponse.pdf
A Reluctant Rebellion
Mark Hansen, Jun 02, 2009
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/a_reluctant_rebellion
A Response to Alexandra Gelber’s, “Response to “A Reluctant Rebellion,””
Dr Nigel Leigh Oldfield, Researcher and Ex-offender in This Field.
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/p/response-to-alexandra-gelbers-response.html
http://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/training/annual-national-training-seminar/2010/009c_Reluctant_Rebellion_Response.pdf
[2008] 2 All ER 1065, [2008] 2 Cr App Rep (S) 49, [2007]
*****
April 2017
The Unjust, Irrational, and Unconstitutional Consequences of Pedophilia Panic
"The fear and disgust triggered by this subject help explain why laws dealing with sex offenses involving minors frequently lead to bizarre results."
https://reason.com/archives/2017/03/15/sex-and-kids
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/4/29/1295551/-Defendants-rights-victims-rights-child-pornography-and-the-Court
https://www.courts.wa.gov/content/petitions/93882-2%20COA%20Resp%20brief.pdf
*****
3rd April 2017
Working with sex offenders and paedophiles
NO nexus = NO culpability = NO harm = NO victim
"The typical client is dealing with intense shame regarding their behaviour, the shattering impact of police officers arriving at the door early in the morning with a search warrant, the distress of their family and friends and the threat of losing their job. So initially I work with these issues and I describe the experiences of other clients, whilst of course maintaining strict confidentiality. This helps them understand that they are not unique. I also look at the triggers for their offending behaviour, as this awareness helps them change their behaviour to avoid being triggered.
Viewing indecent child images is not a victimless crime – others have directly abused children in order to feed the offender’s appetite.
Unless the offender is able to acknowledge this harm then therapy will not succeed. I am aware that the quality of my work will influence whether the offender recovers or continues to harm others, including children. This pressure is particularly intense when dealing with offenders who have harmed children directly."
https://www.hippocraticpost.com/medico-legal/working-sex-offenders-paedophiles
Michael Stock
"Michael Stock is a counsellor and psychosexual therapist from StopSO: The Specialist Treatment Organisation for the Prevention of Sexual Offending works to prevent sexual offending through therapy. StopSO is an agency that connects clients asking for help with a specially trained, experienced psychotherapist (or counsellor) who is geographically close. This service is available to anyone who feels at risk of committing a sexual offence, as well as those who have already committed a sexual offence. StopSO also offers therapy to the family members of sexual offenders. StopSO's aim is to reduce sexual offending by offering therapy to the (potential and actual) perpetrators in order to prevent harm, and thus protect society. www.stopso.org.uk; Telephone: 07533 996 906; info@stopso.org.uk "
http://sexualandcoupletherapy.co.uk
http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor_22437.html
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07957640/officers
*****
@StopSO_UK https://t.co/Nem3gU9JLO and here Michael is where it all goes bad ... pic.twitter.com/hTeJcTB9Wk— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK Almost all image acquisition, these days, has no nexus to the original act, depicted in an image. pic.twitter.com/gKEclMYpIA— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK ... no nexus = no culpability = no harm = no victim. To keep selling your lie, to your clients and all involved is a sham.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK ... you are compelling them to jump through a false hoop/lying, so as to be 'cured'. Who would not agree with you under those circumstances.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK It is bad enough, clueless judges doing so ... https://t.co/dfmglEiKIG but as a rationalist, you should be above such populist false dogma.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK We all want reintegration, rehabilitation and 'normality' returning to the lives of predominantly good men (forlorn hope in many cases) ...— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@StopSO_UK .. but it cannot be built on obvious and evidenced lies. Carry on the good work but pls base it on reality, not dangerous false dogma. Peace— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
@themainmantom @LutherKongGood1 Unless the offender is able to explicitly endorse this propaganda the brainwashing will not succeed.— xeno (@xenopoesis3) April 25, 2017
(Embedded Tweets - click date).Why Lawyers/Judges (Counsellors/Therapists @StopSO_UK) Are Rubbish At Maths - The Voodoo Harm Claims (Updated) . https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) April 25, 2017
*****
No ifs, no buts. Viewing indecent images of u18s creates demand for an industry which harms children. See something suspicious? Report it! https://t.co/nm4N6lICpP— onlinePROTECT (@online_PROTECT) May 10, 2017
@online_PROTECT You are lying. You do not understand the mechanism of image accumulation ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh - https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) May 10, 2017
— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) May 10, 2017
(Embedded Tweets - click date).@online_PROTECT p.s. show me the 'industry'.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) May 10, 2017
*****
How can watching a recording of a crime be the same as committing that crime? https://t.co/vKlgtPcmFe— Dave Thompson (@fair1ife4a11) June 11, 2017
— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) June 11, 2017
How does watching a video of a crime repeat it? That logic doesn't work for anything else.— Dave Thompson (@fair1ife4a11) June 10, 2017
Perps often claim they're watching kid porn for "research," so it must be off limits for everyone. As a former victim, I'm glad for that.— Michelle Stevens PhD (@DrMStevens) June 11, 2017
— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) June 11, 2017
Try that "defense" as soon as FEDS find #ChildPorn on your Devices— ♿BuffBill Kevin 🐸🐼 (@Kevin_FTW) June 11, 2017
It is not a defence in law, statute/case law are only one small part of human experience ...— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) June 11, 2017
(Embedded Tweets - click date)What I state, is correct in reality, showing 'the law' to be faulty. Of course, there are such defences in law, as well i.e. mens rea.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) June 11, 2017
*****
We’ve seen a 71% increase in visits from Scotland to the Get Help website from people seeking to stop themselves or another from viewing sexual images of children #StopChildAbuse https://t.co/s3v4WUyyHp— stopitnowuk (@StopItNowUK) December 15, 2017
(Embedded Tweets - click date)The brainwashing can work ... pic.twitter.com/aQNdZ3h1Kq— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) December 15, 2017
Seek 'help', by all means, but, never lie, for redemption.
*****There you go, people! Children who were touched, raped and filmed / photographed for their nude images to be passed around should just snap out of it. Teens, getting bullied to the edge of suicide, people losing their jobs for nudes made 20 years ago... just snap out of it! https://t.co/EF2vcEb4Yk— Holden 🗺️ (@RaineyRebel) February 2, 2018
A Brand New 'Disorder', Requires A Brand New Term - Eikonophobia - The OSC ... https://t.co/YgScAW7T3b— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
Right. Let's deny all harm for passing around the video of some girl getting raped, because if the "victim" has issues with it or suffers from consequences, it's a disorder of her. This is a ridiculously pro-contact sociopath view.— Holden 🗺️ (@RaineyRebel) February 3, 2018
One deals with the (alleged) dysfunction, in the 'sufferer', not the, no-nexus periphery. Same for any mental disorder. Peace.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
There is no culpability, with no nexus. for there is no mechanism.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
I'm sorry, you don't seem to care at all that in order to make these "harmless" images, a child often gets sexually abused, or you don't consider it CSA, and I don't subscribe to that. You can't defend the material without defending the process it's made through.— Holden 🗺️ (@RaineyRebel) February 3, 2018
Google image 'dead maimed children' and tell me you condone or have a nexus to what you see. Now we are done, on this, TY— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
Yeah, that's your favorite phrase, but it's bs. There's plenty of ramifications from images like that.— Holden 🗺️ (@RaineyRebel) February 3, 2018
The correct facts will never change, so why waste your time ? Bye— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
Please do not reply, I have no time for it. You will either agree with what has been provided, or not, and that is fine. Peace.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims - The OSC ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
One deals with the (alleged) dysfunction, in the 'sufferer', not the, no-nexus periphery. Same for any mental disorder. Peace.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
I'm not viewing shit like that, it can give most people nightmares. Just because there are examples of something it doesn't mean that it should be regarded healthy.— Holden 🗺️ (@RaineyRebel) February 3, 2018
(Embedded Tweets - click date).Sigh . goodbye— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
*****
How about the simple economic axiom of "demand creates supply"? If there is a demand for CP, there will be people willing to supply it. In order to supply it, children must be harmed.— Jenna (@FemmefishDesu) February 3, 2018
No nexus, in nearly every a case, you not know how it works (thankfully) ... Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims - The OSC ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh now please learn before coming back to me. TY— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
Google image 'maimed and dead kids' and tell me about supply and demand and image possession culpability, or or do not. I do not care. TY— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
(Embedded Tweets - click date).That is the problem with being 'simple'. Bye.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 3, 2018
*****
Another victim of feminism. Mark Salling was about to go to prison for 4-7 years for the victimless crime of child porn, but instead killed himself? It is time to wake up, gentlemen, and join the pro-male-sexuality movement. https://t.co/PrQYNSswrx— Eivind Berge (@EivindBerge) January 30, 2018
(Embedded Tweets - click date).There is nothing like debating child porn law for waking one up to the incredible gullibility of the masses and the ease with which the police state can control the population by claiming it is protecting children. At least I can thank my lucky stars that I am not like them.— Eivind Berge (@EivindBerge) February 5, 2018
February 1, 2018
One More Suicide Is One Too Many
"He was just 35 yrs old.
A young man is dead.
Mark could have been any one of our sons, brothers, nephews, husbands or fathers."
https://blog.womenagainstregistry.org/one-more-suicide-is-one-too-many
*****
So, just to be clear: steal some sweets and get put in prison till you hang yourself. Get convicted on child porn, pick up some litter. pic.twitter.com/Tohagtm368— Wings Over Scotland (@WingsScotland) February 20, 2018
Stealing is theft, victim loses goods. Looking at a picture, harms no one.— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 21, 2018
Let me explain with this 'thought experiment' (1) I am now looking at one of these images (2) No one knew until I told you (3) There is no nexus between me and the original act depicted (4) How does the 'victim' know I am? (5) How is there any harm - what is the mechanism?— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 21, 2018
Now, please do expand, on your proposition of 'dissociation' ... Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims - The OSC ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 21, 2018
The picture of a child being sexually abused is itself being party to the abuse. Looking at a picture of a child being abused supports the abuse through clicks. Otherwise they wouldn’t do it to the child, who of course has no volition. Which is the crime! https://t.co/Rg0S1zL1A6— Kev R 🏴 (@kwr66) February 21, 2018
(Embedded Tweets - click date).Incorrect. You do not understand the mechanisms. Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims - The OSC ... https://t.co/KaeQKlZ4Zh pic.twitter.com/EV7Ij29hCN— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 21, 2018
*****
You support Nigel, the guy who claims child porn is not damaging to the child and an adult having sex with a minor is not abuse.— Jamie 🐻🔨 (@jamie2181) February 22, 2018
I don't trust a word that comes out of your mouth.
I find that allies often have opinions that I disagree with, & my opinion on cp can be seen in the flashcard. In my view, images can't be reduced to collections of pixels since people identify with their own images, making them symbolically harmful as per https://t.co/vv88HGalbr pic.twitter.com/EtcpcqjXbx— Kamil Beylant (@Securityconcern) February 23, 2018
I have always made it clear, the perception of the viewer exists, even though, it may be irrational and faulty and, therefore, should have no influence, on the freedom (perception) of any other viewer ;) If so for one image, then for any image - right?— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 23, 2018
Google image 'dead maimed children', become a harmer/killer and perpetuate their abuse :( ... right? ;) Why Lawyers And Judges Are Rubbish At Mathematics - The Voodoo Harm Claims - The OSC ... https://t.co/KaeQKlHtAH— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 23, 2018
(Embedded Tweets - click date).Not looking for debate, just making my position clear :)— GhandisKongGood (@LutherKongGood1) February 23, 2018
*****
When Judges Talk Rubbish - Voodoo Obiter Dicta
http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/when-judges-talk-rubbish-time-to-start.html
*****
More to follow.
No comments:
Post a Comment